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  •  big grain of salt w/that. (0+ / 0-)

    the malaysians are the ones who found the pings and they arent sure if they even came form the lost plane or another plane.

    •  Nope, Malaysians are adament that (0+ / 0-)

      there were no signals after the first 27 minutes of flight.  The ping info is from American investigators, probably with the help of Boeing or RR.  

      Given the threat posed by this plane having been hijacked (remote, but still existent), I suspect the Pentagon is now involved.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:35:05 PM PDT

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      •  Forgot the link: (0+ / 0-)

        "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

        by Subterranean on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:35:51 PM PDT

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      •  well i have a link too! (0+ / 0-)

        this really has become a rabbit hole...

        cnn claims that the malaysians came up with the pings today.
        right now i think everyone is grasping at straws
        even the "new ' cnn report has changed since i read it initially-2 hrs ago
        http://www.cnn.com/...

        •  Strange article, (1+ / 0-)
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          It seems internally inconsistent:

          Malaysian authorities believe they have several "pings" from the airliner's service data system, known as ACARS, transmitted to satellites in the four to five hours after the last transponder signal, suggesting the plane flew to the Indian Ocean, a senior U.S. official told CNN.
          Earlier Thursday the Malaysian government denied a Wall Street Journal report that the plane was transmitting data after the last transponder signal.
          But U.S. officials maintained Thursday afternoon that the information from the airplane's data system was being actively pursued in the plane investigation.
          Analysts from U.S. intelligence, the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board have concluded that the pings likely came from the missing aircraft, the senior U.S. official said.
          I still suspect we're seeing US intelligence being laundered through the media.  The next update will probably prove me wrong.

          "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

          by Subterranean on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 08:26:15 PM PDT

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      •  Other linkage: (1+ / 0-)
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        From the avherald:

        On Mar 13th 2014 afternoon Malaysia's Transport Minister said in a televised press conference, that the last ACARS transmission was received from the aircraft at 01:07L (17:07Z), there were no later transmissions via ACARS

        "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

        by Subterranean on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:48:35 PM PDT

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        •  AVHerald (0+ / 0-)

          AVHerald has pretty much gone to 2/day updates on this incident.  Reasonable since the site operator prefers to be a factual record rather than a newscycle discussion board, but it does mean AVH is behind on actual changes in the situation as well as behind on false rumors.

          sPh

          •  The point is that (0+ / 0-)

            the source of the info on satellite pings is not Malaysia.  

            "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

            by Subterranean on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 08:20:02 PM PDT

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            •  Reasonable guesses (0+ / 0-)

              Two reasonable guesses for the discrepancies:

              1 - the people who know aren't in the habit of giving out detailed information to outsiders (lot of closely held information in the aviation and satcom worlds)

              2 - Inmarsat actually didn't have the data - since it wasn't a communication and wasn't needed for billing they might have discarded it - but some other entity did:  NSA or Australian signals intelligence.  Those entities needed to find the information and then figure out how to launder it back through Inmarsat to avoid revealing their capabilities.

              sPh

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