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  •  Cue for somebody to come on here and talk (0+ / 0-)

    about how wonderful Eric Holder is on voting rights.

    Then to carry the discussion into a fight over whether voting rights or putting Wall St back on its chain is a more important issue.

    Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Fri Mar 14, 2014 at 07:25:51 AM PDT

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    •  SLMD, it's not an "either/or" proposition... (4+ / 0-)

      ...on very many social issues, this administration's been great. But, when one f*cks with the status quo's unbridled greed (which, btw, happens to also massively undermine equality--not just economic equality--across-the-board), that's another story, altogether. (Like financial/white collar crime legislation, and all law, a society may legislate anything it wishes. After the fact, it's how well those laws are regulated/enforced that really matters.)

      Of course, when one does a deeper dive, it's kind of enlightening to argue about the effectiveness of the administration's social policies when the same government is concurrently doing little or nothing to effectively deal with overarching economic policies, and the "quieter" but quite devastating effects those economic policies are having on many social issues, as well. (Just a few examples: unwilling to fight for and the properly distribute $50 billion set aside for mortgage mitigation from the original TARP bill [gov't only spent <$7 bln of those originally-allocated funds]; turning the other way as our banks laundered close to $1.5+ trillion in drug cartel, etc., money; undermining public ownership of education, infrastructure; unashamedly being guided/controlled by the five corporate gangs that, literally, run our society, completely at the expense of the 99%; and so on...)

      File it all under the extremely accurate labels of "INVERTED TOTALITARIANISM" and "MANAGED DEMOCRACY". (People don't like those terms, but [IMHO] they're definitely the most accurate descriptors as to where our society's "evolving," and has been evolving, for more than three decades.)

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Fri Mar 14, 2014 at 08:31:39 AM PDT

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      •  Well, of course not (3+ / 0-)
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        Sorry, I guess I should have put a /snark tag or something, though it wasn't exactly snark.  

        As someone who was living in Duval County, FL during the 2000 elections, voting rights are extremely important to me.

        My comment was that the people who defend Holder or the Administration usually  want the discussion to be governed by an either-or proposition:

          either deal with economic injustice or racism (that's a weird one);

        either deal with LGBT rights OR homeowner's rights;

        either deal with voting rights OR the control of our politics by the uber-wealthy.

        That binary thinking is the yellow brick road that leads to the Emerald City of the following talking point:  "You don't care about (racism, sexism, LBGT rights, voting rights, fill in the blank with whichever social issue the Democrats have been even marginally good on in the past 5 years)! You want to abandon those fights! You're (racist, sexist, homophobic, a Naderite, a Paulite, unappreciative of the many sacrifices made for the extension of the franchise, fill in the blank with whatever pejorative fits the occasion)."

        Once you reach the Emerald City, it's fairly easy to bellow at whatever Dorothy has managed to make her way there and browbeat her into shutting up and going away. Or if she remains spunky and pulls the curtain down, just keep bellowing. What can she ultimately do but leave? Stand there and try to out-shout you?

        Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Fri Mar 14, 2014 at 08:50:59 AM PDT

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