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  •  I hope they re-cast. (16+ / 0-)

    But frankly, I'm not hopeful for the modernization of Peter Pan.  It's racist and dehumanizing of native women and men.  

    It's also sexist towards the white girl, Wendy.  In the original, she's immediately turned into the "mother" of the lost boys, despite being a child herself, as if this were the natural and instinctive role of any female child.  

    Even women who aren't seen are demeaned, as in the mother of one Lost Boy, who's remembered lamenting, "Oh, how I wish I had a checkbook of my own."  And Nana the dog plays the role of a nanny, implying that women who play that role are roughly as smart as a sheep-herding dog.

    If the producers/casting agency were willing to go the redface route, what evidence is there that they're going to correct any of this?  That they're not going to mock Native dances by having white children jump around and hoot with their hands clapping their mouths?

    It'll all be fail, is my guess.

    Not that this is any reason to give them a pass, not at all.

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    by cai on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 05:48:25 PM PDT

    •  rather how i remember peter pan too (7+ / 0-)

      as a kid i thought that clapping thing was stupid too

    •  Oh, and being the "mother" means Wendy (13+ / 0-)

      cooks and cleans.  Of course.

      It's a magical world that children can fly to!  Of course, only the boys will have any fun there; the girls will have to be housekeepers, kidnapped princesses, and flimsy fairies that get sick if you don't believe in them enough.  Ick.

      Never mind Captain Hook being another evil person with a visible disability.

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      by cai on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 05:59:04 PM PDT

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      •  Just to play Devil's Advocate for, y'know, ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... the Hell of it. (see what I did there)

        The entire point of the story is to examine the path to manhood of a boy. Not children - specifically a boy. There are plenty of other stories that examine that path for girls and they should be held to high standards for the message they send to young women but this story is about boys. All other characters are ancillary by definition.

        this is not to say that the depictions of gender and race cannot be updated to express modern roles - and they should. The depiction of Native culture certainly has plenty of room to grow. But we need to remember that the story is 100 years old. Perhaps we should give it some slack as an historical document instead of an instrument of oppression.

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        by Terrapin on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 06:27:43 AM PDT

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        •  I think that the argument still fails (3+ / 0-)
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          Even if it's focusing on the path to manhood of a boy, it's portraying boys interacting with girls who are being portrayed in a stereotypical fashion. That's where it all starts -- as kids.  

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          by BentLiberal on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 09:37:34 AM PDT

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        •  I dispute that there are "plenty" of such stories (1+ / 0-)
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          about girls; I remember being assigned one (1) in all of secondary school, and that was To Kill A Mockingbird, which though primarily about race, also represented a coming of age story of about a (white) girl.

          Meanwhile, we read six novels (whose names I can bring to mind quickly) centered on teenage boys, and countless more novels and stories about men.  We read ONE novel about a woman; it was written by a man.

          That's not plenty.  That's nowhere close.

          Hundred year old stories can be instruments of oppression if we continue to propagate and celebrate them without examination or re-thinking.

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          by cai on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 02:34:26 PM PDT

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    •  agreed! n/t (7+ / 0-)

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      by navajo on Sun Mar 16, 2014 at 06:00:18 PM PDT

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    •  Technically "Pan" is supposed to be a prequel (0+ / 0-)

      telling how Peter Pan got to Neverland in the first place. But they certainly did blow massive holes in an opportunity to have completely "color-blind" casting, since there's no particular reason why any of the characters (bar possibly Peter) should be played by actors of any particular ethnicity.

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      by TheOtherMaven on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:17:04 PM PDT

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