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  •  Some Christians claim is a god of love (4+ / 0-)

    Plenty of others freely acknowledge he's also a God of great wrath, and its hard to go through Christian eschatology without coming away with that impression.

    But given how common it is for human beings to engage in magical thinking (karma, anyone?), why wouldn't people buy into the notion of an all powerful, interventionist creator with the mean streak?  Even if you take God away, you still have a universe that is more likely to kill us than not, we're still creatures who get sick, experience pain, and eventually die.  When these stories were written by early Iron Age (or late Bronze age--your mileage may vary) peoples, man had a life expectancy of a horse.  

    •  That's the thing though, the human body, (3+ / 0-)

      free from disease or injury and sufficiently fed is capable of living for a century. Always has been.

      Horse, not so much.

      "We must make our choice. We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis Brandies

      by Pescadero Bill on Sat Mar 15, 2014 at 08:21:20 AM PDT

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    •  I agree with what you say (2+ / 0-)
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      Maybe I should have said Christians with Blinders - meaning those who see only what they want to see and believe.  And there are a lot of them. They are at one end of the spectrum of believers.  At the other end, there are rational believers and in between are people with all sorts of beliefs.  

      The Christians with Blinders are the ones who believe in the "truth" of the Bible.  One of my relatives is among that group.

      Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket. Eric Hoffer

      by LynChi on Sat Mar 15, 2014 at 08:31:27 AM PDT

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      •  And there's the rub (0+ / 0-)

        "Christians with Blinders" have more common cause with progressivism than those are more honest with themselves about the content of their Scripture and the nature of their God.  In fact, those "Christians with Blinders" have been some of the most faith and true friends of the movement, particularly in the African American community.

        •  I guess we have a different definition (0+ / 0-)

          of Christians with Blinders.  The ones that I am thinking of are the evolution deniers, the ones who believe that a supernatural entity created the world and the universe.  And the ones who are pushing to have their supernatural entity put into our science books and taught in our science classes.  

          Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket. Eric Hoffer

          by LynChi on Sat Mar 15, 2014 at 09:10:55 AM PDT

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          •  Same ones (0+ / 0-)

            Black Protestants are the second most likely group to buy into creationism.

            •  Blacks all descend from Eve (0+ / 0-)

              As do all since there is only one Female Gene pool on Earth, There are four Male lines, descendant from Adam and his sons. However what matters today is the fact that one family survives today which descends from Eve's parents who did not sin and wasn't exiled from Eden. this perpetuates the purity of eden.

              This Imperial Family lives on Haida gwaii at Skidegate B.C. Canada.

              The missing element in world constitutional order is the land right that belongs to this family. In Canada we are constitutionally entitled to reclaim our land rights provided we define them competently in relation to the flow of history. History is proceeding to pass by the Nation state model. See Rev. 2.  

          •  The problem is the "Christians with Blinders" (1+ / 0-)
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            are the ones that actually believe what the book says.

            I don't see how you can read Leviticus and say "well, god doesn't REALLY want us to kill (male) homosexuals even though he says explicitly that it must be done. But god DOES want us to do the good things." How do you know? God killed a lot of people in the old testament.

            If we're going to ignore half the bible, why not ignore the whole bible and just get our morality from ourselves.

            Speaking as an outsider, I don't see how anyone can really determine who is the "true Christian" but I'm not sure how anyone can say the less you actually believe the bible the more of a true Christian you are.

            When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

            by PhillyJeff on Sat Mar 15, 2014 at 07:32:25 PM PDT

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            •  God ceded the Moral Authority to Jesus (0+ / 0-)

              Jesus should be the one complaining about the killing god(s) of Isaiah 45 but instead HE agreed to face the Roman-Jewish plan to kill Him. Remember I was fully aware that the in-crowd wanted me dead.

              As you know 'I" being one of many predicted in Matthew 24 to come forward in that name to forestall Noah's second deluge) and I certainly didn't die there or leave a body behind but walked away in it. So The Father actually fooled everyone except those privy to the deception that placed the murderer Barabbus on the Cross instead of me. Mary knew and stood "far off" from the crucifixion. also why did no one from the Temple or from Pilate's court ever comment on the matter after paying soldiers to secure my former body?  

              Indeed, its why Barabbus said they all "knew not what they were doing" but the 'young man in white clothes knew. Because that was me, Jesus.

              I am born again according to Acts 1, "as before" and I have endured similar alienation again, by Maher's ilk.

              Teach the children that and know Heaven loves them.  

      •  The Way and the Truth and the Life (0+ / 0-)

        This assertion means that the whole Universe and the Infinite Void, Heaven and Earth and Under the Earth, all exist as prop for the story of jesus Christ. but you have to appreciate that WE (OUR Mother and Christ) are in a battle with Satan the great red dragon. The truth cannot be cast before Satan as pearls are not for swine.

        No other belief matters beyond serving to bracket the reality of OUR LORD GOD.

        Blinders; no Seals that regulate the influx of the Way and His Truth by Our Family's life.

    •  Isaiah 45 says God controls both the good (1+ / 0-)
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      and the Evil as well.

      Calculate what that means.

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