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  •  It's also okay if at least one small (4+ / 0-)

    but immensely powerful country does so.  

    You know which one.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 07:08:49 AM PDT

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    •  The principle of self determination (5+ / 0-)

      is sacrosanct, but also situational.  

      •  yes indeed. (3+ / 0-)
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        if you're a Kosovar: yaaayyyy!  
        if you're a Kurd: maybe, if you're in the right place at the right time, but your self-determination can be revoked at any time when convenient to us.
        if you're a Tibetan: we'd love to, but . . .
        if you're a Palestinian: surrender first, and be satisfied with the crumbs
        if you're a Crimean: NO
        (etc. etc. etc.)

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 08:13:49 AM PDT

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        •  It is a melanin dependent continuum (5+ / 0-)

          best I can tell.

          •  Indeed this is largely the case. (0+ / 0-)

            Not always, of course -- I doubt any Americans thought of Kosovars as whiter than Serbs (given our linguistic ignorance of "Albanian" as etymologically derived from a word meaning "white"), but we have a long history of promoting people to "whiteness" only once we decide they're sufficiently "one of us" -- or at least "white" in comparison to an even scarier racial threat.  Consider the history of the Irish, the Italians, and the Southern Slavs in our own country . . .

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 08:46:54 AM PDT

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            •  Well, South Sudan is an exception (1+ / 0-)
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              come to think of it.  But it surely pissed Russia off when we split up that country against their opposition.

              Kosovo, South Sudan, Putin is just using same playbook we used to undermine Russian aspirations elsewhere.

              •  Ultimately (0+ / 0-)

                hegemony overrules ethnic considerations.  However, the non-whiteness of the parties involved does make it easier for us to cancel or ignore previously-made commitments.  Just ask the Kurds . . .

                Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                by corvo on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 09:01:03 AM PDT

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              •  So we were wrong to (0+ / 0-)

                try and stop a massacre??

                What would you do? Sit on your hands while the government of Sudan committed genocide?

                Here's my take on it - the revolution will not be blogged, it has to be slogged. - Deoliver47

                by OIL GUY on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 12:52:53 PM PDT

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            •  Excuse me, but (3+ / 0-)
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              could you two find a room and do this thing you're doing, there, behind some closed doors?  It's sort of nauseating.

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