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  •  You're not even close (3+ / 0-)
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    native, Norm in Chicago, Mr Robert

    on Ukraine Lawrence, and it's a damn shame since you're kind of the unofficial lead on the topic here.

    Please, go read the piece at Salon.  Go read Robert Parry.  Then continue discussing Ukraine.  If you continue on with the same line of thought you've had on the subject, then we'll know how you truly feel about Propaganda and weird neo-fascist, ultra-nationalists.

    •  How does it fit with these two documents? (1+ / 0-)
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      Lawrence

      http://vaadua.org/...

      According to this statement by subject matter experts the Maidan protests were not taken over or primarily of the far right.  

      http://eajc.org/...

      And a letter from members of the Ukrainian Jewish community to Putin.  

      Its hard to know what is happening but these two articles suggest it is not how many news outlets make it appear.  

      I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

      by DavidMS on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 10:55:07 AM PDT

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      •  The central issue (3+ / 0-)
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        Sunspots, Lepanto, poco

        is not the role of the neo-nazis, as disturbing as that is, and to whatever extent.

        The central issue needs to be the role of the oligarchs inside and outside Ukraine, and the role they are playing in all of this.

        The second issue is that, corrupt or not, a democratically elected President was ousted because of a fucking policy decision, and the media in our so-called-democracy-loving-land says nothing of that.  

        But none of this is reported, because that might reveal the fact that the oligarchs and plutocrats and neocons are leading the world down the merry path of war once again, and all in the name of them playing this game against each other for the right to decide who gets to extract the last remaining drops of blood from the already desperate Ukrainian people.

        Only then do you get into how scary it is that, regardless of their role in the the protests, the door to Parliament is now guarded by 30,000 skinheads.

        •  The "policy decision" being to murder ~100 (4+ / 0-)

          demonstrators by ordering the firing of machine guns into the crowd.  His ouster, conducted by a vote of the parliament, was justified.  Even members of his own party voted to remove him from power.  And by the way, he's wanted in Ukraine for charges of mass murder.

          Finally, his policy decision to align with Putin and shun the EU was indeed reported by the West press.

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