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  •  We have write-in boxes on our ballots. (4+ / 0-)
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    Timaeus, ColoTim, ArthurPoet, Lawrence

    The Ukrainians didn't.

    There was no option for them to vote against secession.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 09:55:37 AM PDT

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    •  Fine, but look (0+ / 0-)

      I'm living in Illinois.  Say Canada decides that Chicago is really part of Canada, since it's on the Great Lakes.  And we get a vote that says:

      A)  Secede from the US and become part of Canada
      B)  Secede from the US and become and independent state.

      Well, I'd rather be an independent state than part of Canada.  And an independent state has the ability to do things, like not secede at all at the end of the day.

      Makes a hell of a lot more sense than to just stay home and pout, and then say I had no voice.

      •  Are you for real? (0+ / 0-)

        Ukraine never agreed to this referendum that Putin created.  So what's the mechanism for implementing the results of either option on the ballot?  Russian military force, that's what.  Both the "independence" and "annexation" options are to be implemented via Russian invasion, which has already occurred.

        The Putin apologists should at least now propose a legitimate way to implement the annexation.  The way I see it, Putin should now offer to buy Crimea for trillions of dollars.  It would still be outrageous since Ukraine would have to accept the offer at the point of a gun, but Putin could at least claim he gave Ukraine due compensation.

        •  Crimea never agreed to be traded to Ukraine (0+ / 0-)

          How would you like it if one day you woke up to find out that your state had just been given to either Canada or Mexico?  No vote, no say in the matter, just done, traded away like a baseball card.

          And due compensation?  For what?  Ukraine didn't buy Crimea in the first place.  So what do they need to be compensated for?

          Why is some politician in Kiev entitled to the wealth production of the people of Crimea because of a 1954 Soviet communist decision?  How does that make any sense?

          Ukraine didn't buy Crimea, so it can't sell Crimea.

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