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  •  Clearly, (15+ / 0-)

    The Republican strategy is to make everything worse and worse in this country, particularly among the poor non-white populations so they will be dissatisfied come election time and either vote against Dems or, better yet, not vote at all.

    Doing things like cutting SNAP are purely political (and incredibly cynical) acts designed to get Republicans elected no matter how much suffering it causes. If the states butt in and keep the suffering from getting too much worse, the Republican strategy won't work. That's why they are upset about states taking up the slack.

    States rights only works for them when it helps them get power.

    •  Why would that happen? (2+ / 0-)
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      nocynicism, GreenMother

      If things get really really bad due to Republican policies, "poor non-white" populations are going to vote for the party that not only promotes those policies but also hates them? I am not following your reasoning. And people will be MORE likely to vote for the party causing their pain as the pain gets worse? This sounds like more of Gooserock's unhinged pessimism. I just don't follow.

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

      by anastasia p on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 09:00:45 AM PDT

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      •  Most people are not well informed (2+ / 0-)
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        TKO333, bryduck

        Many people in this country don't know that the Republican party is obstructing policy. A lot of people don't even distinguish between the parties. "They both suck." They are disillusioned, poorly informed, get most of their (mis)information from TV network news and lack the ability to critically analyze what information they get.

        Low information voters don't know what policies Republicans promote and they don't know that Republicans hate them. They know that they can't get food stamps anymore, they know that there are no jobs and that their houses are cold.

        So they are going to vote against the party in power, which, to them, is the Democrats since they see the sitting president as the leader of that party.

        This situation may be better in 2016, a presidential election year that typically gets much better turnout, but certainly in an off year election, if the Republicans can keep the level of pain high, it works to their favor, both depressing the turnout and by getting people who would normally be inclined to vote for Dems angry with politics.

        •  Well now sometimes both parties do suck (0+ / 0-)

          But I agree with everything else you are saying.

          If you want to inform people, perhaps old school flyers would be a start.

          "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

          by GreenMother on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 09:44:18 AM PDT

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        •  All the poor get hurt... (2+ / 0-)
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          Mokurai, Mr Bojangles

          The Republican party is desperately trying to hold on to poor and lower income whites.  It's pretty much all they've got.

          Ragging (and raging) continuously against "those (other) people" is a key strategy - dating back to before Lee Atwater.

          He was the one who, on his deathbed, described it and how it evolved over time from pretty much straight racist attacks, to refined sounding policy choices that "just happen" to disproportionately hurt "those people".

        •  That is (0+ / 0-)

          exactly why we need truthful media. Not the non-news and propaganda most news outlets spew. I won't even include the entertainment one, Fox. Actually they aren't entertainment at all but garbage.

          •  Well, yeah, but (0+ / 0-)

            sure, we need a truthful media. The democratic model depends on well informed populace. But we ain't gonna get a truthful media because the people who own the media depend on an uninformed populace. We're on our own. Pass it on.

      •  I can run the scenarios either way . . . (1+ / 0-)
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        the missing piece of course is "what do the Democratic candidates offer that will motivate voters?"

        Minimum wage, was suggested here a day or two ago.  I think that's right . . . every time one of them says "food stamps" or "welfare" or "jobs" or "Obamacare,"we should say "minimum wage" at least twice.

        ". . .as singularly embarrassing a public address as any allegedly sentient primate ever has delivered." - Charles P. Pierce

        by Rikon Snow on Mon Mar 17, 2014 at 09:47:47 AM PDT

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      •  Yes they do vote for those who make things worse! (0+ / 0-)

        I live in an area that is filled with poor people who vote republican.  Their reasons are because God wants them to, because of Socialism, because of Obama, because of abortion, the dems want to take away their guns, states rights, freedum, ect.  Meanwhile, they live in old falling down trailers, work in low wage jobs or have no job, struggle to feed their kids, or rather their wives do.  I was in line at Dollar General one day, two of my neighbors were talking about their husband's being laid off from a construction company.  One had worked there 13 years.  One told the other that she was making her husband go apply for food stamps and any other help they could get.  She said, I don't care about his pride, we got to feed the kids and keep a roof over our heads.  I am making him do it.  There was determination in her voice. She was working part time at the local Mcdonalds and she wasn't a young woman. She looked tired and worn out and stressed out, like a lot of women around here look. A friend of mine told me that there are 300 children living in cars in this area.  We are small and rural and 300 kids are living in cars!  How bad must it be other places!  

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