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  •  Would you please (8+ / 0-)

    site the study on which you are basing this comment. Thanks.

    Frankly, I’m getting more than a little tired of hearing from angry America. I’m also less than fond of knee-jerk America. And when you combine the two with the Internet, you too often get stupid America, which is really annoying.

    by jsfox on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 08:30:41 AM PDT

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    •  Further... (3+ / 0-)
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      More expensive cars are more in control at higher speeds. Anyone who has driven a really nice car knows this to be true.

      •  More expensive cars give you the illusion... (0+ / 0-)

        ...you're more in control.  The limiting factor is a driver's ability to handle higher speeds safely, no tthe ability of the car to handle those speeds.

        "Democrat" is a noun. "Democratic" is an adjective. "Republican" is an idiot. Illigitimi non carborundum. Regardless of Party.

        by TheOrchid on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 08:56:22 AM PDT

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        •  Again (4+ / 0-)

          Please site the study that supports this comment.

          Frankly, I’m getting more than a little tired of hearing from angry America. I’m also less than fond of knee-jerk America. And when you combine the two with the Internet, you too often get stupid America, which is really annoying.

          by jsfox on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:02:54 AM PDT

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        •  You are not telling it as it is . (1+ / 0-)
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          Porsche 911 four wheel drive 964 .
          Built to drive at speeds that are well above 100mph .
          An average driver can drive and be protected by a better car . Another car that is good enough to go 55mph is a death trap at 100mph . Even a great drivers puts themselves in danger driving a bad car that fast .

          "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

          by indycam on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:08:03 AM PDT

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          •  You're missing the point. (0+ / 0-)

            BECAUSE a Porsche is capable (easily) of going 100mph, a driver is more included to drive closer to those speeds on a freeway than a driver driving the other car you cite.  But the driver, himself, is not necessarily safer at the speeds the Posrche would encourage you to drive.

            Don't forget the original proposal was to fine drivers of expensive cars more than those of less expensive cars.  One common source of fines is speeding.  If a driver feels safer speeding, because they have a more expensive car, they are more likely to speed.

            "Democrat" is a noun. "Democratic" is an adjective. "Republican" is an idiot. Illigitimi non carborundum. Regardless of Party.

            by TheOrchid on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:21:22 AM PDT

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            •  "a driver is more included to drive closer" (1+ / 0-)
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              Could you re-phrase that in English please?  You are making no sense whatsoever.

              Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

              by bobdevo on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:25:45 AM PDT

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              •  inclined. nt (0+ / 0-)

                Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

                by k9disc on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:27:48 AM PDT

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              •  "included" should read "encouraged" (0+ / 0-)

                (k9disc's edit works, too.) Simple typo.  You simply want to believe the rest of my comment makes no sense, and so focus on the one small linguistic error.  Not a problem I'm going to worry about any further.

                "Democrat" is a noun. "Democratic" is an adjective. "Republican" is an idiot. Illigitimi non carborundum. Regardless of Party.

                by TheOrchid on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:34:35 AM PDT

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            •  I have two cars , a VW van and a Porsche 964 . (2+ / 0-)
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              I'm not the one missing the point .

              The 964 tops out at around 160mph .
              It is far far safer on the motorway than a claped out deathtrap .

              But the driver, himself, is not necessarily safer at the speeds the Posrche would encourage you to drive.
              Yes the driver is . A driver is more likely to crash the van in an emergency situation , its inherent ability to do things is less . It turns slower , it takes more distance to slow down , etc etc etc . The Porsche 964 is safer at 80 than the clapped out car is at 55 .

              My girlfriend borrowed a car from her friend so that I could drive her to the airport , it was unsafe , I was unhappy to be on the freeway with it . It was a fine "neighborhood" car but doing the legal limit on the freeway was crazy .

              My mother wanted me to drive her into town in her old pinto , we had gone a few hundred yards down the road when I turned to her and asked if she might think about buying a new car . Her pinto was a death trap at any speed .

              "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

              by indycam on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:42:59 AM PDT

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              •  Blasphemy. The '66 VW microbus behaved quite (0+ / 0-)

                nicely in emergency situations. If you  were lucky enough to have experienced passengers on board that new how to shift positions, you could negotiate some superb two wheel corners.

        •  It's more than an illusion, for crying out loud. (2+ / 0-)
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          SOME - not all - more expensive cars handle better, turn quicker, stop faster, and are inherently safer to operate at higher speed.

          Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

          by bobdevo on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:10:16 AM PDT

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          •  Read my comments again. (0+ / 0-)

            The focus is how safe the DRIVER is, not how safe the car is.  A driver driving past his skill level is not a safer driver just because he's driving a more expensive car.

            "Democrat" is a noun. "Democratic" is an adjective. "Republican" is an idiot. Illigitimi non carborundum. Regardless of Party.

            by TheOrchid on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:22:08 AM PDT

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            •  A driver - of any skill level - is safer (2+ / 0-)
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              driving in a better handling/steering/stopping car than in a worse handling/steering/stopping car.

              Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

              by bobdevo on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 09:26:56 AM PDT

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            •  Drivers ADAPT to a Car's Performance (0+ / 0-)

              It's called learning.

              If you have a more expensive car, your driving habits improve because the car's performance allows you develop better driving skills.

              If you drive a poorer performing car, your driving skills are limited to the car's ability to respond to your driving skills. No matter HOW good a driver you are, if you drive what is essentially a death-trap on wheels, it can't respond properly.

              A better car can.

              What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

              by equern on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 10:54:01 AM PDT

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