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  •  These days, I prefer to consider all rich (2+ / 0-)
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    guilty of crimes against the environment and humanity, until proven otherwise.

    If the Republicans could do this to government and public employees, teachers, union members, middle class (and lower income) people, immigrants, people of colour and women - ALL in fealty to the richest who they mutually enable - then, I think the wealthy can use a black eye in the public square as a starting point, to show that they truly are not worthy of worship and/or unsuppressed political power.

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 12:34:34 PM PDT

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    •  I prefer to presume (2+ / 0-)
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      people are decent until proven otherwise.

      I'm not naive. I don't trust easily. But I see no reason to jump to the conclusion that a human being is inherently evil without even interacting with him.

      Republicans hate first; then, maybe they ask questions later. Often, they hate people because they're poor. I'm not sure your approach is much different, but simply the inverse process.

      Anyhow, this is one of the reasons I'm a liberal. I genuinely like people. I want good for all people. I just won't judge someone for the contents of their wallet, whether it's a black AmEx card or food stamps.

      That's just me though. YMMV.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:04:47 PM PDT

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      •  I've known - and still know - many wealthy (2+ / 0-)
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        people.  A good number are decent enough people who are not killing the environment or oppressing workers.  A large percentage are making their money from within a greater system that does foment such things, but I have a tough time associating them with malicious or uncaring behavior towards others/the planet.  These acquaintances run from incomes of many hundreds of thousands/year to millions+/per year.

        So, let me attempt to clarify my earlier point: I am socially liberal and try to follow the golden rule - this means that most people get at least a glass half-full opportunity when I first encounter them.  Further, I try to find the positive in folks, despite any obvious points that I also find in the negative range.

        However, the super-rich are on a different cultural plateau by choice: they have obtained both a level of possible comfort and associated, public acknowledgement of their semi-deified status simply due to their wealth - at least since Reagan's cultural revolution.

        And, no mistake about it: some of the wealthiest people are our primary enemies of fair politics and a healthy, equitably shared environment.  Republicans at the federal level are merely a symptom - leeches and sycophants - of the most wealthy.  Church leaders who have fallen into the demonization trap?  Stems from political dealings with Republicans and shared, monied backers in the later 70s, onwards.  As it has ever been, there are classes of politicians and their aligned businesspeople who will serve only the monied masters, out of pure self-interest.

        Levels of celebrity now granted the super-rich places them in positions of power to manipulate our societal views of public workers, educators, union members, the poor, so-called minorities, etc. through Republican-led politics, such that 30+ years of incessant programming through 24x7 news and manipulated traditional media outlets has broken the Overton Window, it's been moved so far rightward.  This is not mere theory: it's the primary reason Republicans have become as extreme as they are: they've been enabled.

        That celebrity comes with a potential downfall, though: they can be idolized, but they can also be vilified just as fairly.

        Until individual super-rich people prove themselves not to be highly dangerous influences on society and our system of government, I think they should expect an emerging cultural movement which no longer admires or even worships their prestige, but instead recognizes them as primary backers of most problems seen in government towards fair use of taxes towards people, infrastructure and the environment.  It's not just the super-rich, but that's a starting point for such a sea-change in perception of their undue manipulation of government for the common good, I feel.

        Therefore, as a liberal with a reality-based bent and marketing background, I really don't mind demonizing their caste for awhile: a little blowback against the demons on Mt. Olympus seems more than warranted, even if some of them may be less dangerous than others.  And, such a social campaign will easily bring out the truly worst actors in their midst, as we've already seen that simple reporting of the worst manipulations of our government's role brings out Nazi comparisons among some of those who should be identified as part of the problem - while not concentrating on those who are otherwise out of the picture.

        "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

        by wader on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 03:26:31 PM PDT

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