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  •  Willard wrote that recipe! (8+ / 0-)

    They just can't keep from doing the same things over and over.

    43 House Republicans want to sue Barack Obama for being President.

    by Geardup on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 08:07:46 AM PDT

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    •  Poor George [H. W. Bush] (6+ / 0-)
      He can't help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth.
      Democratic Texas Governor Ann Richards

      Back in the 1960s Barry Goldwater got off some priceless clunkers, too, such as thinking publicly about nuking North Vietnam, or

      Sometimes I think this country would be better off if we could just saw off the eastern seaboard and let it float out to sea.
      Johnson's campaign seized on both to make quite powerful ads, of which Daisy (with nukes) is the most famous.

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 10:42:56 AM PDT

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      •  where are the Dems who would make that ad (13+ / 0-)


        LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

        by BlackSheep1 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 11:28:31 AM PDT

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        •  Cowed by 50 years of the Southern Strategy (8+ / 0-)

          which may be coming to an end in another decade or so, according to the demographic trends.

          Yeah, LBJ nuked Goldwater, and then we got Nixon, Reagan, and two Bushes. And a string of Southern Democrats, Carter, Clinton, and apparently another Clinton.

          Were the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and the Great Society worth all of that? Certainly. We wouldn't have ever gotten them by not taking them when they were available.

          And now we are making our biggest advances again through unforced errors by those who think they are the smartest guys in the room, in the country, nay, the world, and who actually are a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like, as was most prominently said of Newt Gingrich.

          For example, Democrats got nominal control of both Houses of Congress and the Presidency in the backlash against Shrub and the Neo-Conmen (band name, anybody?) and we look like we could take real control in 2016 without Joe Lieberman and the Blue Dogs (ack, another band name).

          One of the worst band names is Mike Huckabee's Capitol Offense, another unforced error.

          Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

          by Mokurai on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 02:15:56 PM PDT

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        •  According to the LBJ biography (4+ / 0-)

          I'm reading by Randall Woods that ad ran exactly one time.  It's amazing that it's still remembered so vividly despite that.

          A petty criminal is someone with predatory instincts but insufficient capital to form a corporation. --Clarence Darrow

          by stlsophos on Fri Mar 21, 2014 at 12:18:00 AM PDT

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      •  I half agree with the late senator, (3+ / 0-)
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        only I would make the saw cut along the Mason-Dixon line . . . .

        •  I couldn't agree more! (0+ / 0-)
        •  As a Southern transplant (4+ / 0-)

          Please don't. I understand the sentiment but the problem isn't the population, the real problem is getting everyone to vote, especially in the cities.  Anyway, right now Kansas, Wisconsin, and Arizona look a lot worse to me than the Southern state I live in.  I'm not denying there are problems here too, obviously there are.

          Better idea:  Move down here and help facilitate the change.  I've found speaking to people one-on-one does help, especially with the young.  Plus the weather is amazing, the scenery is gorgeous, and the cost of living in my medium-sized city is great, as is the relative lack of traffic.

          •  My statement was a generalization. (1+ / 0-)
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            I didn't intend to offend anyone.  No did I seek to indict the political sensibilities of the population of Arkansas, much less those of the entire South. To be clear, of course I realize that liberal thinkers live everywhere in the United States, the South included.  Yet I maintain that my generalization nonetheless remains apt.  

            The anti-intellectual, narrow-minded, myopic social attitudes and politics that characterize the American South--these you can't reasonably deny--are toxic to the nation's interest.  I agree with you that the unwillingness of many to vote is "the problem."  Yet you've identified a symptom, not a cause.  So I would ask why such an attitude of political noninvolvment prevails.  As an answer, I suggest that children born into a society in which prejudice, bigotry, and closed-mindedness are accepted--if not actively taught--can hardly escape becoming politically unenlightened adults.

            I've traveled extensively in the South, and I readily agree with your favorable characterization of its cost of living and geography (though I find its climate uncomfortable in summer).  Yet whatever the South's benefits, they cannot in my view outweigh the bigotry and hatred ingrained in its social fabric.  I'll remain in New England, thank you.

            •  No offense taken, Arfeeto (0+ / 0-)

              I understood your comment was not at all mean-spirited and not meant to be taken literally, and I certainly understand your preference for New England.  Living there is very tempting to me.

              There is the culture you describe down here, and it may well be dominant but I do see signs that make me hopeful for change.

              I understand why one might assume from my name that I live in Arkansas, but I don't.  I'm a few states east of there.

              Yes, summers in many areas of the South are terribly humid, but my city is near mountains.  (It's also a fairly blue oasis in a sea of red desert.)  As a result the summers here are no worse than in the cities of the Midwest I have lived in, although not nearly as lovely and mild as the ones in your area of the country.

              Sorry it took me so long to respond, I hope you get to see this.

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