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  •  So much for those claims... (19+ / 0-)

    ...that civil unions only differed from marriage in the word used.

    •  This has actually been a problem for me. (4+ / 0-)
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      For 30 years I would have much preferred a push toward civil unions for same sex (and other) partnerships, rather than marriage, which I associated too much with religion.

      I seem to have been wrong.  Demanding marriage equality in 50 states (hopefully short circuited in the next year or two by the SCOTUS) was infinitely preferably to trying to pass or amend 50 x 1000+ laws that would approximate marriage.

      •  Thank you for your change of perspective. (3+ / 0-)
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        I always felt ceding marriage to religion was a bad idea -- especially for those of us who don't have any religion.  Churches liked to say marriage was a religious institution, but marriage has been around longer than any religion we still even know of.

        Civil marriage is the state's business; religious marriage the various religions' business.  

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        by cai on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 08:00:31 PM PDT

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    •  Indeed. After Windsor, my partner and I hired an (3+ / 0-)
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      immigration attorney whose very first piece of advice was "Get married asap. We don't know for certain, but it seems likely that they are not going to recognize your DP certificate."

      Of course, when we moved from Wisconsin to Amsterdam four years ago, we didn't yet have a DP cert. The Dutch just asked if we had any official documents from the US with both our names listed. We gave them a single bank statement from a joint account, which we had opened THREE months prior to moving. We weren't even jointly listed on the lease for our A'dam apartment,  but Iwas awarded a residency card bas3d soley on that bank statement and our signing a letter affirming that we were partners.

      We later took a Czech (his home country) RDP, which made our move to the UK just as simple, because, at least in the EU, RDPs are totally equal to marriage certs, for both homo and hetero couples.

      A homo in a bi-national relationship - at 49, I had to give up my career, leave behind my dying father, my family & friends and move to Europe. And I'm one of the *lucky* ones: Immigration Equality

      by aggieric on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 02:38:52 AM PDT

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