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  •  I'm convinced that Westboro help create (22+ / 0-)

    the conditions necessary for the avalanche of change now happening in our country. People are offered a clear choice. Am I going to be for hate or love? Love is winning.

    "I'm gonna dance between the raindrops"

    by IB JOHN on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 05:14:01 PM PDT

    •  Nonsense. (2+ / 0-)
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      thanatokephaloides, JerryNA

      Nothing exists or happens in a vacuum so the actions of WBO had some effect toward attitudes but not a great one.  It was the bravery of so many people coming out to their friends, family, and well known public figures who commanded a level of respect to begin with.  It was the campaign against the bigotry and the fall of govt policies by the leadership of a good hearted WH.  Finally, it was the courts which began hearing cases brought before them and ruling in favor of the constitution, including SCOTUS, and making the continued hatred a futile effort.  Those all helped get us to this point (which is hardly a point of freedom, yet) far more than the revulsion over one nut's hatred.

      "If it takes all night / that'll be alright / if I can get you to smile before I leave." Jackson Browne

      by rainmanjr on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 07:33:57 AM PDT

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    •  I also would credit the Mormon defunding (2+ / 0-)
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      IB JOHN, silverfoxcruiser

      The LDS caught a ton of backlash over their CA prop 8 support. Leading up to prop 8, the LDS had 70+ paid staffers working around the country on limiting LBGT rights through ballot measures and legislative agendas. They contributed millions of dollars to that effort. According to Mother Jones, the LDS has essentially walked away from the whole thing.

      "It seems like the [Mormon] hierarchy has pulled the plug and is no longer taking the lead in the fight to stop same-sex marriage," says Fred Karger, the LGBT activist who first exposed the church's major role in the passage of Prop. 8. "The Mormon Church has lost so many members and suffered such a black eye because of all its anti-gay activities that they really had no choice. I am hopeful that the Catholic Church cannot be far behind."

      Every time my iPhone battery gets down to 47%, I think of Mitt Romney.

      by bobinson on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 12:22:42 PM PDT

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