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  •  some exotics in Texas were the last surviving (6+ / 0-)

    individuals of the species. The technicalities of shooting them were such that they lost popularity and game farms stopped breeding them causing a dangerous decline in populations that were the last in the world. Regulations were loosened, they once again became popular, and eventually reintroductions were begun in Africa where they used to exist naturally.

    Similar to catch and release fishing I don't personally choose to participate in high fence or many other types of hunting, but I do understand how it does have it's good for conservation of species.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 08:02:04 PM PDT

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    •  Preserving the gene pool? You can't do any better (11+ / 0-)

      than this for saving the gene pool? Even with modern science?

      How pathetic.

      There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

      by oldpotsmuggler on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 08:09:05 PM PDT

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    •  Goddamn man, even I don't prefer a Zoo to natural (4+ / 0-)

      habitat. But you want to go to game preserves?

      Can you say anything to justify yourself?

      There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

      by oldpotsmuggler on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 08:12:07 PM PDT

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      •  where did ban nock say he goes to (7+ / 0-)

        game preserves?

        i try to stay out of this anti-hunting bullshit, but when was the last time you or any non-hunters here contributed money for habitat or species preservation?

        if so, good on  you.

        we do it all the time.

        The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -Bertrand Russell

        by elkhunter on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:25:44 AM PDT

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        •  The context clearly was "go to a system of (2+ / 0-)

          game preserves as the means to foster species survival". And, of course, the reason why that is repugnant is because it amounts to hunters trying to hold both society and nature hostage. "Either you let me kill this one, or they all die." Do I reject that? Vehemently! (But thanks for a perfect example of selective reading and thinking.)

          As far as that "holier than thou" only hunters care/contribute, feel free to fool yourself about that, but it's not true and no one else is buying it. Hunters pay some user fees that the rest of us don't. The rest of us pay taxes to make up the difference. And, yes, I would be happy to pay more taxes to get gunnut influence out of wildlife management decision making.

          There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

          by oldpotsmuggler on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 10:49:00 AM PDT

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          •  you can put your virtual beliefs into practice (0+ / 0-)

            by purchasing licenses and not using them.

            so pony up. i just dropped $500 in tags and chances are the only thing i'll get out of them is a few days off of work and some incredible time in nature.

            there's no reason to lash out at hunters over game preserves, most of us hate them as much as you do.

            no need for an insulting and contemptuous attitude. remember that although we all have our differences we are all on the same team. i certainly don't agree with ban nock on everything but i appreciate his voice around here, just like everyone else around here who speaks their opinion in a constructive manner.

            The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -Bertrand Russell

            by elkhunter on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 09:15:44 AM PDT

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