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  •  You didn't read the link, did you? (0+ / 0-)

    To sum up:

    They were written in a manner that violates the nationally and international recognized process for writing standards. The process by which they were created was so fundamentally flawed that these “standards” should have no legitimacy.
    OK?

    As for "a competing standards organization":

    The American National Standards Institute (ANSI) has served in its capacity as administrator and coordinator of the United States private sector voluntary standardization system for more than 90 years. Founded in 1918 by five engineering societies and three government agencies, the Institute remains a private, nonprofit membership organization supported by a diverse constituency of private and public sector organizations.

    Throughout its history, ANSI has maintained as its primary goal the enhancement of global competitiveness of U.S. business and the American quality of life by promoting and facilitating voluntary consensus standards and conformity assessment systems and promoting their integrity. The Institute represents the interests of its nearly 1,000 company, organization, government agency, institutional and international members through its office in New York City, and its headquarters in Washington, D.C.

    ... ANSI promotes the use of U.S. standards internationally, advocates U.S. policy and technical positions in international and regional standards organizations, and encourages the adoption of international standards as national standards where they meet the needs of the user community.

    The Institute is the sole U.S. representative and dues-paying member of the two major non-treaty international standards organizations, the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), and, via the U.S. National Committee (USNC), the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). As a founding member of the ISO, ANSI plays a strong leadership role in its governing body while U.S. participation, via the USNC, is equally strong in the IEC.

    Yeah. "Just another" competing standards organization.
    •  I know who they are. (0+ / 0-)

      And read the link too. Thank you for quoting it. Just wanted to hear what you think. I didn't say "just ", either.

      •  What do I think about what? (0+ / 0-)

        The fact that you are promoting a set of standards that would not be certified by the "sole U.S. representative and dues-paying member of the two major non-treaty international standards organizations" due to such poor development processes? Is that what you would like to know what I think about?

        I do notice you aren't addressing the point I made. Would you like to know what I think about that?

        Try to be a little more clear and forthright.

        •  Perhaps I missed the point. (0+ / 0-)

          I thought your point was that a competing standards organization didn't like them. My response - sorry I wasn't clear - was "so what?" You quoted stuff from the article, I agreed those things were in the article. Is there a particular line of thinking you want to talk about? I'ts not enough just to tell me another body has some hate for it. You have something specific you want to talk about relating to this, I can. My lunch is over though so you'll have to wait a few hours.

          •  No problem. My point, pretty clearly, was that the (0+ / 0-)

            major standards organization in the country would not have certified the Common Core standards, because they were developed in such a manner as to belie all principles of open standards.

            You are promoting those standards (CCSS) as a Good Thing.

            If it's necessary, I guess my question would be, "Why are you promoting something that fails all ANSI certification standards as a Good Thing?"

            I'ts not enough just to tell me another body has some hate for it.
            If you are going to claim that ANSI is a small fish amongst organizations dedicated to standards, it's going to significantly reduce your credibility.
            •  Okay. (1+ / 0-)
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              IamGumby

              I'm not sure exactly what ANSI wants, although I got the gist of it. Here's the thing. I teach. The standards in my content area are actually excellent. They're well thought out, achievable, and obviously modeled directly on the standards produced by our two largest professional associations. It's only a draft we can look at now - our content area will roll out by the end of the year - but there was a public comment phase before the next draft.

              So while I can appreciate your perspective, what affects my life more than what some standards body (no matter how illustrious) says about common core is whether I can see them work - and I can. Good thing too because we're two years down the road for implementation.

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