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  •  Enviro groups should be supporting Shenna Bellows (3+ / 0-)
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    abgin, wdrath, camlbacker

    in Maine. The race in ME-Sen is declared uncompetitive, but that is largely because groups like the Sierra Club, League of Conservation Voters, and Environmental Defense endorse and support "moderate" Senator Collins instead of the strong environmentalist and progressive libertarian Democrat Shenna Bellows. Collins voted for the KXL pipeline. She has a mediocre Progressive Punch lifetime score of 59.6% on the environment and a terrible 39.8% lifetime score on crucial environmental issues. And, of course, since Collins is a Republican, she supports the Republican leadership and agenda which is terrible for the environment.

    Collins exemplifies the saying "a moderate is someone who is there for you when you don't need them." Shenna Bellows would be a strong and consistent advocate for the environment. Collins is a friend of the environment only when it doesn't much matter.

    •  uh, no (2+ / 0-)
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      Maine is declared uncompetitive because we lost by 23% in 2008, one of the best years we've ever had, despite having an A-list recruit (a congressman, for crying out loud). Collins is unbeatable.

      TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (Celia Israel-D). Senate ratings map (as of 3/10/14)

      by Le Champignon on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 06:13:33 AM PDT

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      •  Rudy Boschwitz (1+ / 0-)
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        won the Senate in Minnesota by 17% in 1984, but then lost to the unknown Paul Wellstone in 1990. Maine is a blue trending state with a strong environmental streak and with Democrats energized by a crazy Tea Party Republican governor. If the environmental groups supported Bellows over Collins, a lot of Mainers would reconsider their support for Collins. Part of why Collins wins is because she gets support from groups like EDF and LCV despite her mediocre environmental record and even though the Republican Party has gone full Tea Party anti-environment.

        Wait for a few more polls before declaring Collins "unbeatable".

        •  Again, no (0+ / 0-)

          Boschwitz lost in 1990 due to a personal unpopularity with the voters that Wellstone exploited. He also exploited the growing Democratic dominance of the state. 1984 was also a Republican year where Mondale was shut out nationwide - he only won his state by 0.2%. 1990, on the other hand, was a much more favorable election year for us.

          Besides, Collins is emphatically not Boschwitz, and Wellstone is emphatically not Bellows. Collins' approval is well into the 60s. You just can't knock off an incumbent like that.

          And again, history has shown Collins to be unbeatable. If we couldn't win in 2008, why would we win in 2014? Do you seriously think Bellows is stronger than a guy who represented half the state since 1996?

          TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (Celia Israel-D). Senate ratings map (as of 3/10/14)

          by Le Champignon on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 09:31:48 AM PDT

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          •  Nothing is certain (0+ / 0-)

            In 1990, Democrats picked up one Senate seat (Wellstone) and 9 House seats. It was an ok year for Democrats, but not that great. Wellstone ran a strong populist campaign, which worked.

            Shenna Bellows has never held office, but she has led two winning grassroots statewide campaigns (marriage equality and voting rights). That is significant. She's not well known, but she is working tirelessly to build a grassroots campaign and she's getting pretty good press in Maine. She is working hard and not giving up.

            I'm frustrated with your certainty and negativity. Yes, Collins is a strong incumbent and will be very tough to beat. But so is Mitch McConnell, and Kentucky is a lot more conservative than Maine -- should we just throw in the towel now? If Shenna Bellows won, she would likely be a much more progressive force in the Senate than Alison Lundergan Grimes (or Michelle Nunn or Natalie Tennant for that matter). I give progressive candidates the benefit of any doubt until close to the election -- to me, the value of a possible progressive win is very large even if it is not likely. Maine is a cheap state -- even a little help might enable Bellows to win, especially if Collins slips or circumstances change. Remember, Chris Christie had favorability ratings in the 60s just a few months ago. Things can change, and sometimes they do.

            •  Loserspeak (0+ / 0-)

              There's a thing known as "Loserspeak" that campaigns often engage in when they know they're losing badly. One example is "I'm running a grassroots campaign". BS. Collins is running a grassroots campaign. The last PPP poll showed Collins beating Bellows by 14% ... among Democrats. She was leading 61% to 20% among the general electorate.

              Contrast that with McConnell, whose approval rating is lower than Obama's in KY.

              You can give her the benefit of the doubt if you'd like, but don't give her your money. Give it to someone else who can use it - Hagan, Grimes, Nunn, or Walsh would be prime donation targets. Scoff at their politics if you'd like, but our majority is built on the backs of conservadems, not progressives.

              TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (Celia Israel-D). Senate ratings map (as of 3/10/14)

              by Le Champignon on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 07:40:57 PM PDT

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      •  Pryor was even uncontested in 2008 (0+ / 0-)

        And other Democrats where leading the polls by 10%+ one year ago vs the same people that now are tied with them.

        It is a mistake to fight not for ME-Sen.

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