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  •  Proud to say, yes, I disgree with those gun (1+ / 0-)
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    extremists, many of which also are christianists, anti-abortion, pro-personhood, anti-marriage equality - that's some company you keep.

    "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

    by We Shall Overcome on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 06:35:55 PM PDT

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    •  And many of which were registered Democrats. (0+ / 0-)

      20-30% of the registered Democrats that came to vote in Giron's district (in a district that voted by Obama by 19 points).

      You, along with anti-choice & anti-same sex marriage, seek to take rights away from others.
      Society's support for the rights & liberties of innocent Americans has been expanding on all three of these issues for decades.
      Enjoy spending time with your fellow political dinosaurs. You're going to be sharing that particular tar pit with them for a looooong time.

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 06:48:49 PM PDT

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      •  Wishful thinking - 90% support UBC, 50-60% supprt (2+ / 0-)
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        AWB/ban on high cap mags.

        "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

        by We Shall Overcome on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 07:10:21 PM PDT

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        •  And gun control has less support than it did (0+ / 0-)

          twenty years ago.

          The poll results that matter happened in Morse, Giron & Hudak's districts & more will be held on November 4th.
          I look forward to discussing those meaningful polls with you on November 5th.

          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

          by FrankRose on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 07:34:19 PM PDT

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          •  I look forward to that as well and expect you'll (0+ / 0-)

            stick to you're propaganda that guns have somehow become the No. 1 issue in the mind of every voter in Colorado.

            In reality, voters in Colorado are not supporting the most ardent pro-gun candidate for governor - Brophy - because guns aren't their most important issue.

            And the Colorado GOP is trying to keep the gun nuts out of their primary process - for obvious reasons, ie, when the gun nuts run in general elections, the GOP loses.

            But don't let those facts get in the way of a good propaganda yarn.

            You might also be interested in what's going on in Castle Rock, Colorado (a conservative town that went 60% for Romney in 2012), where the Colorado gun lobby is trying to take over the city council - the mayor is a card carrying member of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and has graciously invited them to his gun range to plot how to overturn Colorado's 2013 gun reform. Of course, that has prompted city residents to try to change they way their mayor is selected (currently by the city council) so they can vote him out. Also keep an eye on city council elections where the gun nuts who have infected the city's politics are facing multiple candidates who are against their pro open carry votes of just a month ago.

            You can stick to your exaggerated gun propaganda that attempts to inflate the issue of guns over that of jobs/economy, marriage equality, pro choice, et al - but it's just that, propaganda.

            "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

            by We Shall Overcome on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:53:46 AM PDT

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            •  Unintentional irony. My favorite kind. (0+ / 0-)
              ie, when the gun nuts run in general elections, the GOP loses.

              But don't let those facts get in the way of a good propaganda yarn.

              Not even in Democratic districts in elections during non-election years while outspending the GOP 6-to-1.

              Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

              by FrankRose on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 07:02:17 AM PDT

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              •  Yeah, Colorado Springs and Westminster (0+ / 0-)

                - those are some "Democratic districts" you got there. Clearly you don't know Colorado ... and in an off year, stand alone, special election that restricted mail in voting 15 days before the vote - in other words, the gun lobby and the GOP gamed the vote.

                You shouldn't delude yourself into thinking those elections were representative of the mood of the entire state. Those were the ONLY three districts out of 35 senate districts and 65 house districts where the gun lobby thought it could win - I'll do the math for you, that's 3% of the entire state that the gun lobby thought it had a chance to win recalls (and in Colorado Springs, the recall only succeeded by 400 votes or so), and in those elections turnout was 50% or less.

                So, you're entire "theory" that advancing the pro gun agenda issue has somehow become the number 1 issue for Colorado voters is based on about .1% of voters.

                That's beyond laughable - it's insane.

                "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

                by We Shall Overcome on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 07:14:59 AM PDT

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                •  Voted for Obama by 19 points & had more (0+ / 0-)

                  registered Democrats than GOPers show up....where 20-30% of those registered Democrats voted for the recall.
                  .....odd how you forgot that.

                  The other two districts had Democratic Senators, up until they lost their jobs.

                  But, hey....those 'gun nuts' sure can't win elections, amirite?
                  Just keep giving reality the finger.

                  Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                  by FrankRose on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 07:21:00 AM PDT

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                  •  The GOPer who replaced Morse says the Aurora (0+ / 0-)

                    shooter was lucky to have a 100 round drum because it jammed ... after 65 shots - he's up for election this November. I'm looking forward to that one.

                    In the other district, the Dems still hold the seat and the GOP is trying to keep the gun nuts out of the primary process because they know if the gun nut (who also is  christianist anti-choice, anti-equality) win the primary, they will lose the general, which is exactly what happened in 2008 that allowed the Dems to take that very seat — a gun nut split the vote, which allowed the Dems to control the Senate and vote for gun reform.

                    So, yes, the gun nuts do know how to win elections and pass gun reform ... for Democrats.

                    In yet another "Colorado Gun Nut Hall of Fame" story - a GOPer state rep is withdrawing from his re-election campaign, just a month after he brought a loaded gun in a gym bag to the state capitol for a meeting with legislators and constituents about concealed carry - this "responsible gun owner" forgot about his gym bag (and the loaded "concealed" gun) after the meeting adjourned and left it behind in the room.

                    You have a warped and deluded sense of how the pro-gun agenda plays in Colorado politics based on how 0.1% of the electorate voted in off year, stand alone, special elections.

                    "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

                    by We Shall Overcome on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 07:36:25 AM PDT

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                    •  If only that pesky reality would bug off of you. (0+ / 0-)

                      3 incumbent Democrats lost their seats in unprecedented & humiliating fashion because you decided that you distrusted & feared your fellow Coloradans.

                      25% of the registered Democrats that showed up to the polls voted for the GOPer
                      You managed to create a 40-60 point swing in registered Democrats in the course of less than a year.
                      Hick, who was untouchable prior to this nonsense now has a race on his hands.

                      These are irrefutable facts.
                      Your willful ignorance doesn't change reality.

                      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                      by FrankRose on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 08:28:43 AM PDT

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