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  •  No that is not true at all (1+ / 0-)
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    Norm in Chicago

    The employer has more freedom than the employees when an employer can force employees into relinquish their freedoms for a wage. We created a new form of government about 240 years ago to prevent this type of exploitation of 'We The People' by an elite few. That's why we need strong legal protections for America's workers. It should not be left up to a non-existent "free market".  

    Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

    by RMForbes on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:05:29 AM PDT

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    •  Power varies with how much employee's skills (2+ / 0-)
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      Sparhawk, Norm in Chicago

      are in demand.

      For a person with skills in high demand, the employer will need to frequently yield on these types of issues that don't have much actual impact on the business - otherwise the business will not have the talent it needs.

      For people with no special skills in a city with high unemployment, there will always be employees available willing to work under special rules (but not extraordinary rules.).

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 10:39:46 AM PDT

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      •  The problem is that the employers have all the (0+ / 0-)

        power and can even create the high unemployment through their political influence in order to drive down labor costs. This is the real problem that needs to be addressed by governmental regulation. We can level the playing field and increase competition in the marketplace by raising the minimum wage and giving the government the power to create jobs of last resort when the private sector can or will not create those jobs.

        I've been in retail management most of my adult life and in my experience there are no real unskilled employees. Some people need more supervision than others but everyone has some skill and deserve to be well compensated for their labor. Even the janitor that cleans the factory floor between shifts helps increase the efficiency of the business. This idea that we need to accept wage slavery because of high unemployment is plain ridiculous.  

        Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

        by RMForbes on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18:02 PM PDT

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    •  Would you object to an employer firing an employee (0+ / 0-)

      who never acts racist on the job even when interacting with the public, but has racist bumper stickers on his car and parks on public streets near the front door of the business, and outside of business hours wears racist T-shirts, expresses white supremacist ideas in person and on the Internet, etc.?

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 12:25:02 PM PDT

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      •  No, I would protect that person's job too (0+ / 0-)

        Even the racist's political speech is protected by the First Amendment. On the job actions are completely different than exercising political speech and using medicinal cannabis during off hours. I would even have no problem with someone being fired for being under the influence of cannabis or promoting racism while on the job but cannabis use the night before going to work should not be grounds for dismissal.

        Cannabis use is more likely to improve employee performance because it helps promote a healthy sleep cycle which leads to a more relaxed and better rested employee. Besides, a regular herbal cannabis user would not very likely be a racist embarrassment for the business either.  

        Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

        by RMForbes on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 12:52:20 PM PDT

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