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  •  When a corporation HIRES employees legally (10+ / 0-)

    then it is agreeing to adhere to to the labor laws and the civil rights laws of the land for each and every living citizen.

    It makes no difference what religion the manager is, or the CEO for that matter. When they hire an employee they are making a contract, an exchange of money for services.

    Not once have I read, that being hired for a job entails selling one's individual rights to civil liberties or freedom of thought or freedom of conscience.

    This battle is really about ownership.

    Do corporations OWN employees to the degree that they can defy federal law on the basis of religion, in order to violate the employees rights?

    Even if they are women?

    "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

    by GreenMother on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 02:33:37 PM PDT

    •  Providing health care is about compensation (3+ / 0-)
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      Yes, in the same way labor laws require a certain level of cash payment, it now requires compensation in the form of access to group health insurance coverage (for certain employers). It is not a gift.

      So what I don't understand is how is paying for insurance that provides birth control coverage different from paying wages that could also be used to buy birth control? (Except that most of these complaining companies pay wages that often make affording birth control a hardship.) So would this be a slippery slope that employers could require that an employee sign an affidavit that they won't use any of their wages to buy contraception?

      In return for fulfilling certain work obligations, an employee gets certain compensation. The employer should have no say in what way that compensation is utilized. Case closed.

      •  It's discrimination, plain and simple. (3+ / 0-)
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        The company isn't objecting to all forms of contraception, just certain ones offend them. I would have thought that HIPAA laws would shield workers/patients from the company knowing which meds were prescribed, etc., but this is basically another attack on the ACA and another distraction from all the theiving going on by Wall Street profiteers.

        This comment is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

        by blue muon on Tue Mar 25, 2014 at 09:52:20 PM PDT

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      •  Because this is an attempt to kill two birds with (1+ / 0-)
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        one stone.  The poster below nailed it. It is discrimination plain and simple. 1. It's discrimination against women by singling them out for organized, institutional discrimination, and it's attempt to get the Obama Health Care plan thrown out, and we all know that the GOP/Christian Extremists don't like him because he is "Muslim" (and if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you).

        Keep in mind this is only one angle of attack. We also have attempts to defund Planned Parenthood, and the Conscious Clause for Pharmacists, Doctors, Nurses and EMTs, Fake Crisis Pregnancy Centers, and laws that were meant to removed informed consent from female patients (more organized Institutional Discrimination) as well as threats to kidnap women and force them to go to pregnancy crisis centers.

        I guess being a god's chosen people means never having to say you are sorry.

        "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

        by GreenMother on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 04:57:40 AM PDT

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        •  Of course it's discrimination (1+ / 0-)
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          The point I was trying to make was that it should be obvious to people that this has nothing to do with the employer-employee relationship. Health care benefits are no different from any other part of a compensation package, and employers get no say on how employees use their wages, social security, unemployment, etc.

          It is an attempt to use the ACA to force people to live as they see fit. Feudalism lives.

          •  I don't see them objecting to penis pumps or boner (0+ / 0-)

            pills. Funny how that works.

            "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

            by GreenMother on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 11:14:04 AM PDT

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