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  •  so perhaps i was correct (4+ / 0-)

    When Obama warned Putin of the (unmentioned) consequences of his Crimea play i immediately thought of Syria. And then the Turks shot a Syrian jet out of the sky. And now this.

    All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

    by subtropolis on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:20:51 PM PDT

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    •  So many pies, (8+ / 0-)

      always with the same sticky fingers in them.

      •  oh sure (1+ / 0-)
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        But if this is true i'd be more annoyed that they'd been caught.

        Hats off to the FSB if this is one of theirs. They've been on quite a roll.

        I wouldn't rule out the Israelis, though. This is surely not beyond their capabilities and there are certain of the defense establishment who are quite understandably pissed off at the US -- and Kerry specifically -- right now regarding Iran. They have legitimate concerns for their nation's existence should the Iranians develop nukes. And that's looking like a distinct possibility. All the same, i'd like to think they wouldn't do this.

        All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

        by subtropolis on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:57:50 PM PDT

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        •  No, they don't. (13+ / 0-)
          They have legitimate concerns for their nation's existence should the Iranians develop nukes.
          There is absolutely no evidence that Irans leadership has any interest at all in making Iran the target of an 80-300 warhead counter-strike.
          •  They don't have these concerns?! (1+ / 0-)
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            Do you think they're making it up? Just two or three nukes could devastate Israel. Are you telling me that you have more insight into the situation than Israeli Intelligence? Please.

            There are some in positions of power in Iran who have been quite open in their longing for the apocalypse and the return of the Hidden Imam. Imagine that the Christian Dominonists were in control in the US. Not all of the Iranian leadership are nuts, thankfully, but there are precious few reasonable Iranians at the helm. I fear not just for Israel but also for Iran, a land of wonderful people under the yoke of crazed tyranny.

            But i don't want to threadjack here. I made that statement as background to why this might have been an Israeli rat-fucking operation. However, my strongest inclination is to look to Russian FSB.

            All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

            by subtropolis on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 06:22:59 PM PDT

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            •  You dropped a word in your response. nt (2+ / 0-)
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              "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

              by Hayate Yagami on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 06:38:26 PM PDT

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              •  why illegitimate? (0+ / 0-)

                They're making it up?? To what end? Do you really think they aren't legitimately concerned for the survival of Israel?

                All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

                by subtropolis on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:34:04 PM PDT

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                •  You changed your whole statement this time (1+ / 0-)
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                  "legitimate concerns" is not the same as "legitimately concerned".

                  For example, Bush may have been "legitimately concerned" (i.e. he was really concerned about it) about Iraq's WMDs, but those were not "legitimate concerns" (i.e. there was no actual basis for it).

                  Conspiracy theorists may be "legitimately concerned", but the fear of the black helicopters is not a "legitimate concern."

                  "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

                  by Hayate Yagami on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 08:42:49 AM PDT

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            •  As Hayate Yagami already noted (6+ / 0-)

              As Hayate Yagami already noted, you dropped the word "legitimate".

              The bullshit politicians say on TV to play to the profound prejudices and bigotries of their voting base doesn't often reflect reality.

              Pretending you don't want to threadjack in order to avoid backing up your nakedly fear-mongering NeoCon claims is a rather cowardly dodge, but so be it.

              You don't have to call it tapping out for everyone else to see it for what it is.

              •  aaaaannnd the red kerchiefs are out (0+ / 0-)

                I wish i could describe to you how ridiculously wrong you are with this assessment of me but it's just too ridiculous to go there right now.

                Things aren't always what they seem, is all i can say. The rest is up to you.

                All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

                by subtropolis on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:41:37 PM PDT

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            •  Making it up? Yup (9+ / 0-)

              Bibi has been making these claims since the '80s. Any rational person would quit listening to someone when what they said didn't pan out. But we still listen to him. 30 years later after his first bullshit 'Iran will have the bomb in 6 months' statement.

              Yes they are making it up. Just like the folks that made up the Iraq war. They are still on TV.  In office. And we here on the left are told to elect one as President.

              But since we in the West are more concerned about getting our hands on Iran's oil than the people in region, we continue to let psychos run our policy.

        •  There is no reason why Israel would release this (2+ / 0-)
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          Unless they prefer the current situation in Syria to the prospect of what might follow from a Turkish assault, Israel would not release this. I would imagine that Israel would like to see Assad's regime crumble. One less Iranian ally -- that's got to be a plus, even if the makeup of the next regime would be uncertain.

          Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

          by FischFry on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:39:05 PM PDT

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