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  •  I agree (24+ / 0-)

    If I can add to this, rarely comments;

    They might do well to admit that there is no law that requires truth in political ads.

    Then use the oppositions own words, own video, in context (they don't want the people to view them as just liars too)

    If they will then give links or websites where people can read the truth (as in a part of a bill ie: grandma will be killed) show the truth in balance and honor and the demos can sweep the nation.

    Truth and balance is what people are now seeking. They are don't with the drama, lies and theatrics. They want balance and fairness. No more share in sacrifice when it is abundantly obvious the people are the only sacrificers.

    The dems should remain acutely aware that people are tending not to believe any politician now, including the dem party too. So give the evidence.

    Think small, shop small, vote by action, by history of voting, vote the less funded!

    •  This is so understated in this country... (24+ / 0-)
      They might do well to admit that there is no law that requires truth in political ads.
      Although, I would add that there's also no law in America stating that our media is obligated to call out those lies either. Not to mention that our corporate media lacks the inclination to do so anyway.

      "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - 17th-century French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu.

      by markthshark on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 04:29:56 AM PDT

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      •  Great Point! (13+ / 0-)

        They could use Chuck's own words (a clip) and those who agreed with him, when he expressed openly it was not his job to call out the lies (I can't remember his exact words, but that came across to me)

        Anyway the point being is to use their bigness against them. Using their words, as marktheshark say, even the media point that they cannot Necessarily be trusted as truth sayers.

        Thanks for adding that very very important point!

        I think when we all begin to see that uniting ideas and imagination we can transform our society and become the change we desire! We must stay in balance and in focus.

        We must follow the law of the light <(how I see it) and be laser focused, as the light of a laser has the power to cut through the hard!

      •  Per a court case in Florida,* (5+ / 0-)
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        it's legal for news companies to fire employees who refuse to lie.

        * It involved Fox, of course

        Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

        by Simplify on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 02:43:01 PM PDT

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        •  I'd like to know more about this situation. Do (2+ / 0-)
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          you have a link for this?  

          Plutocracy (noun) Greek ploutokratia, from ploutos wealth; 1) government by the wealthy; 2) 21st c. U.S.A.; 3) 22nd c. The World

          by bkamr on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 07:11:02 PM PDT

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          •  It's an amazing story (6+ / 0-)
            PROJECT CENSORED
            Top 25 of 2005

            11. The Media Can Legally Lie

            April 29, 2010
            CMW REPORT, Spring 2003
            Title: “Court Ruled That Media Can Legally Lie”
            Author: Liane Casten

            ORGANIC CONSUMER ASSOCIATION, March 7, 2004
            Title: “Florida Appeals Court Orders Akre-Wilson Must Pay Trial Costs for $24.3 Billion Fox Television; Couple Warns Journalists of Danger to Free Speech, Whistle Blower Protection”
            Author: Al Krebs

            Faculty Evaluator: Liz Burch, Ph.D.
            Student Researcher: Sara Brunner

            In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States. [...]

            Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

            by Simplify on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 07:29:36 PM PDT

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    •  The BEST words you used are (5+ / 0-)

      "Give the evidence"!  Talk about hitting the nail on the head!
      The terrible truth is, though, that too often, even those who support the more honorable and worthy candidate can't articulate their reasoning to a skeptical listener who may only allow them a few seconds.  They too often fall back on unsupported rhetoric which is as likely to create a backlash as persuasion.  
      A manifestation of this is too prevalent in even the candidates' own appeals for contributions... ("Send me money because the Tea Party is spending millions against me"... rather than a direct comparison of ACTUAL political policy or voting record on an issue.)  The message becomes, "There's a necessary place for money in our political system"... they ask for MONEY first and a VOTE second, if at all!  And who wants to hear about "deadlines?  ... political junkies, and that's just preaching to the choir.
      An honest printed policy comparison, simple and concise, on a postcard or in an email, goes a lot further, especially if those FACTS were the brunt of the message rather than MONEY.  An appeal for money, if it has to be included, should be a single sentence and contact information  AT THE END.  
      A good strategy for someone who wants to convince others in a brief encounter would be to focus on a single candidate, learn about their stand and TRACK RECORD on an issue or two, as well as that of their opponent... and be able to speak readily and clearly on those points.

    •  This! Let them choke on their own lies! (2+ / 0-)
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      A coordinated effort to do this at every level of government,  not just national, would completely change things. The lying/spinning of truth usually starts at the county/district level, and certainly is there by the time people run for state office.

      If people know they will be called on it, from the start, think of what could be different. Would Chris Christy even be in office is Buono had a resource like this to debunk the lies? Would political appointees make different decisions if they knew they were being watched?

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