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  •  I believe the serpent in 3:5 because God confirms (1+ / 0-)
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    it in 3:22.

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

    by illinifan17 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 11:12:54 AM PDT

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    •  Good answer (1+ / 0-)
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      But the serpent promises them the powers of God with this knowledge, which is a lie. All they get with it is a realization, which they had to get, that they had, in the consumption, achieved evil/sin.

      3:22 affirms the interdiction of the fruit (death) and prevents the antidote (eating from the tree of life).

      "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

      by The Geogre on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 11:16:58 AM PDT

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      •  Sorry, but I just don' recognize any of (2+ / 0-)
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        What you're saying in the text.

        So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

        by illinifan17 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 11:47:08 AM PDT

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        •  Here, then (0+ / 0-)

          Gen 3: 4 ff, KJV
          And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
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          God said that they would die if they ate of it. The perfected man and woman were not subject to death or decay. The serpent tricks them with a word game. They will die, now, but he says, they won't die now.
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          3:22
          And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
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          "Eat the fruit and you shall (come to) die" vs. "Eat the fruit and you shall die on the spot." They ate the fruit and got the penalty that came with it -- the sentence of death. They had to be banished so that they did not rebel against the sentence.

          "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

          by The Geogre on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 06:54:42 PM PDT

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