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  •  Looking only at tornadoes and hurricanes... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...is too narrow. Nobody ever said the extremes would be linear.

    Take a look at this World Meteorological Organization list from my diaryUN: Extreme weather soars, Australia's record heat was 'virtually impossible' without human impacts:

    • Atmospheric carbon dioxide reached record levels in May 2013. Methane reached a record high in 2012. (No compilation of figures for all of 2013 is yet available.)

    • The oceans reached the highest levels ever recorded.

    • Japan and Korea had their warmest summers on record.

    • A place in South Africa had the hottest temperature ever recorded anywhere in Africa for March (117°F).

    • Most of Siberia had an extra cold winter, 3.6°-5°F below average.

    • The European part of the Russian Federation had its warmest November on record

    • Greenland had the highest air temperature ever recorded there: 78.6°F.

    • Argentina had the hottest December on record.

    •Very hot temperatures combined with strong winds and drought led to the largest wildfire in Colorado history.

    • The eastern inland part of Iceland recorded its coldest May ever, -6°F.

    • Austria set a new high temperature for August (104.9°F), The same day in Bratislava, Slovakia, the temperature hit 102.6°F, the hottest since records started being kept in 1850.

    • The monsoon was early this year and contributed to flooding that killed thousands in India.

    • California saw its driest year since records started being kept 119 years ago.

    • Northeastern Brazil had its worst drought in half a century while in the south of the country, seven cities recorded their most precipitation ever in December with one city, Aimores, receiving four times its average precipitation for the month.

    • During flooding throughout central Europe, the Passau River in Germany rose to its highest level since 1501.

    • 17 inches of snow fell in 24 hours in North Dakota, a one-day record. Duluth, Minnesota, and Rapid City, South Dakota, had their snowiest Aprils on record (51 inches and 43 inches respectively).

    • Snow fell in Cairo for the first time since 1901. Jordan, Syria and Israel all received record amounts of snow, and the temperature fell to -3°F in Shoubak, Jordan, on Dec. 15, the coldest day ever recorded in the country.

    • Typhoon Phailin forced 1.1 million people to evacuate in the Indian states of Odisha and Andrha Pradesh, one of the largest evacuations in the nation's history.

    •In El Reno, Oklahoma, witnesses saw the widest tornado ever recorded: 2.7 miles.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 04:09:32 PM PDT

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    •  Weather.. (0+ / 0-)

      Someone keeps telling me weather is not climate..

      Yet, all of those datum are weather..  discreet single day/week phenomena mostly.

      Climate scientists have been predicting warmer and warmer winters in North America..  yet we have the coldest interequinoctial period in 100 years.  Is that weather?  Hell if I know, but, to me, it sure as hell weighs more heavily than daily weather phenomena/records.

      Records are broken daily.

      I guess what I am trying to say is that I have yet to see a pattern that conclusively points to climate change besides a very slow rise in temperature.  All of the items you pointed out are within normal variability.

      So is the 100 year cold spell we have just experienced.

      The problem with looking for definitive data, is that when you find it, it's probably too late.

      That is why I have always been in favor of a judicious approach to carbon output.. i.e. do what we can as fast as we can..  nuclear is my choice as a stop-gap while we build renewables.

      But the U.S., while a big producer of greenhouse gasses, is not the biggest problem.  We have no control over China and other emerging nations.  They are the biggest polluters.  And, our economy should not be  destroyed by regulations made to make up for their pollution.

      •  Per capita, only 11 nations surpass... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...the U.S. on emissions. While China and India are still adding more emissions each year and the U.S. less, per person it's different: 7.7 tons of carbon gas each from China and the EU in 2012; America emitted 17 tons per person.

        As for records being broken every day, yes, but there are a lot more of them happening now. To say that we have a new record hottest day or hottest month by definition puts that day or month outside the range of "normal variability" for that day or month.

        Alaska is in North America. It had a very warm winter for the very same reason Canada had a very cold, snowy one: the skewed jet stream.

        We agree about one thing. We've should get away from burning carbon quickly.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 04:20:16 AM PDT

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