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  •  On that point, Darth, I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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    The rest of the country should NOT look to Andrew Cuomo as the future of the Democratic Party. But, imo, it won't come to that as NY will be among the first states to lead its Democratic Party back further left, leaving Andrew beyond the bend.
    Especially upstate, where we are historically known as the Scorched Earth District for the speed at which we've implemented progressive change. Granted, we've been in a progressive drought, but the times, they are a-changin'.

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 05:52:57 AM PDT

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    •  Scorched Earth District (1+ / 0-)
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      was the name given to upstate NY for all the crazy religious revivals held there.  Wrappings, Joseph Smith (location of the Mormon golden tablets) , etc.

      Pre-science literates could be understood in light of winters which have been like the one we are still in.  With no TV, computers, few books except the Bible; listening to fiery preachers was THE source of entertainment.

      Don't forget the area also produced Susan B Anthony and the ladies of Seneca Falls, sheltered Harriet Tubman, the Quakers & the Underground Rail Road, Douglas, etc.

      I always hope the times, they are a-changin' but it seems like people are more polarized than ever, with the rise of the Tea Party upstate.  

      •  Not ONLY the religious revivals, (1+ / 0-)
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        but also the other things you mention.
        I have lived here all my life save my time in the Navy. I was born in the city of Canandaigua where Susan B. Anthony voted illegally. I have visited her and Frederick Douglass' grave sites in Rochester's Mount Hope Cemetery. Frederick Douglass' white wife was from the town of Richmond, village of Honeoye where I vote, my local taxes go and my sons attended preK - 12.
        At one point in history, Richmond had more sheep than any other community in the United States. Hard to find any now. The farm I grew up on had been a large Iroquois settlement until General Sullivan rode through and butchered the natives in the name of keeping the world safe for white progress. That kind of scorched earth, I'm afraid, is also part of our history. As children, we'd walk through the woods beyond the pasture to the clearing full of impressions where the native grave yard had been before being cleared out by the Rochester Museum and Science Center in the 1950s. It wasn't too rare to find an arrow head. On one of my best friend's farms, there was an area where a long house had existed next to a ravine. In that ravine, we found the stone tools that had broken during their manufacture or hard use: arrow and spear heads, hide scrapers, bone pipe stems...

        Rochester had the first Negro American newspaper in the country: The North Star, created by Frederick Douglass.
        Preachers weren't the only ones speechifyin'. In the church I grew up in, in West Bloomfield, where my brother is now the pastor, there was found a journal from the second quarter of the 19th century. When the mule-drawn book mobile rumbled in from Rochester, it always emptied out in West Bloomfield. Book discussion groups were one of the main sources of entertainment, and at the crossroads where the old town hall still stands, citizens could stand atop a box and opine to their heart's content and did just that.
        So even in the pre-Civil War era, that small Ontario County farming community lusted for information and enlightenment and education was a high priority. West Bloomfield had a reputation for intellectual farmers and merchants. And those I've known in the 20th and 21st centuries are no slouches, either.

        In the Scorched Earth District, "crazy religious revivals" were more likely to be questioned and shunned as they passed through than to be taken up with passion.

        "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

        by Gentle Giant on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 01:18:53 PM PDT

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