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  •  After this latest fiasco, it's very clear to (1+ / 0-)
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    me that the 1% of NY'ers have captured the City and Albany will do everything they can to help that process along. I believe that if anyone could change things, it would be Schneiderman but he won't do it.

    It's a total disgrace that might make me not want to vote in the race at all.  I would never vote for a Republican but I feel really uneasy about voting for Cuomo for re-elction. He has totally shafted the city's public schools.  I heard today that Astorino will campaign along side Donald Trump (!!1) upstate against gun control. What a stupid move on his part!  I believe that Cuomo's Dem support is "soft" and that Astorino could capitalize on that.  However, hanging out with "the Donald" is pretty much a deal breaker.

    •  Do you put any blame on the thousands of (0+ / 0-)

      parents who send their kids to charters?

      New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

      by AlexDrew on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 11:57:51 AM PDT

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      •  I think they are pawns, don't you? (1+ / 0-)
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        I understand that from some schools they were required to attend the 6000 person rally in Albany - presumably at risk of having their kids kicked out - just Romney's coal miners.  And their schools closed for the day.

        The real blame is on Cuomo - who got $800,000 in contributions from the charter lobby (that doesn't pay rent) and other politicians.

        And the media which fell for a $5 million ad campaign that was run against de Blasio's policies in January.  Coordinated with orchestrated press coverage attacking de Blasio for trying to protect the children in 3 neighborhood schools after we've had hundreds of closures and co-locations.  Where were these people when that was happening?

      •  Who are generally parents (1+ / 0-)
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        in poverty-stricken areas simply trying to get their kids into something different and break the cycle of poverty?

        No.  The parents, misguided as they are, are only trying to do what they think (and have been endlessly told by the charter lobby) is best for their children.

        I don't blame them for that one bit, especially since most of them tend to be very unsophisticated voters in the first place, and hence are easily susceptible to charter propaganda.

        A real liberal knows the answer lies not in charter schools, but in breaking the cycle of poverty.

        But you've never been much of a real liberal Alex.  Just an agitator.

        "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

        by Darth Stateworker on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 12:26:35 AM PDT

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        •  Is there a survey I can take? We probably (0+ / 0-)

          disagree and tactics, not goals. I think charters will fade a way, but I want choices/options within the public system.

          New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

          by AlexDrew on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 04:14:00 PM PDT

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      •  Here is the thing about charters. (1+ / 0-)
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        The idea of having specialized schooling programs and facilities within a pubic system is a great one.  And something with potentially great benefits to the kids who go to them.

        That is why the magnet schools in New York City are so popular.  And it is done within the pubic school system with unionized teachers and has great results.

        But no one wants to spend money building more magnet schools.  But they are willing to spend it on charter schools.  Even if they pretend they aren't spending anything.  And that was the great farce of the Bloomberg administration.  If a school was given a bad principal AND was being renovated and given new and better facilities you knew it was being prepared to be given a charter co-location.

        In theory a charter system could work.  If it was made to work in a way like magnet schools where it worked with rather than against the rest of the school system. But as implemented by Bloomberg it just sucked resources out of schools that needed them desperately so that a for profit could profit.

        And that was what De Blasio was trying to fix.  Not end charter schools but taming them.  Instead Cuomo has bizarrely inserted himself into something where he doesn't belong.  And into something where he probably has little care in the world besides polling data.

        If he REALLY wanted to help he could allocate funds for new school buildings the city could rent to charters.  That would be a fair compromise.  But that is not what Andrew Cuomo was looking for.  Just to kneecap someone he views as a rival.

        The lady was enchanted and said they ought to see. So they charged her with subversion and made her watch TV -Spirogyra

        by Taget on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:08:12 AM PDT

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