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  •  Interesting that you do not see Right Sector (6+ / 0-)

    as the West's "own ringers" themselves.  That has been the thrust of much commentary on Ukraine since Yanukovych fled.

    The Stars and Bars and the red swastika banner are both offerings to the same barbaric god.

    by amyzex on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 02:50:03 PM PDT

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    •  I wonder about that, (6+ / 0-)

      I really do. I suggest reading this stunning article about how Ukrainian fascists who collaborated with the Nazis came to the United States and established a political base here. They became deeply intertwined with the Republican party. Even Bush the Elder knuckled under to them.

      When Bush Senior was running for president in 1988, he came to these, basically one of the leading locations of the Ukrainian nationalists in North America, which is just outside of Detroit, a suburb of Detroit, to their cultural center, and one of their foremost leaders in the world is headquartered out of there. At the time, he got Bush to come there and they denounced the OSI, and Bush just shook his head; he wouldn’t say anything about it.

      The OSI was the Office of Special Investigations. It was investigating the presence of Nazi war criminals in the United States, and deporting those who were found to have lied on their history when they applied to come into the United States after the war. They had deported a number of people from all over the United States. They had a lot of open investigations, and all these émigré Nazis were trying to bring all the political pressure they could to stop these investigations, including the Ukrainian nationalists.

      So they denounced them, the OSI investigations, in front of Bush. Bush nodded his head, but he wouldn’t say anything because he didn’t want to sound like he was sympathetic to the Nazi war criminals, but at the same time he didn’t want to offend his hosts by disputing the issue with them.

      The logical question is: are the ideological descendants of these fascists, who have maintained their political organizations in America, still in touch with the likes of Right Sector back home? Are the NED and the CIA and the likes of Nuland working (perhaps without being fully aware of it) through these organizations to funnel cash and weapons to fascist militias in Ukraine?

      Who trained the Right Sector militias? Who funded them? They toppled a government. That's not easy, and I doubt a ragtag group of misfits could have done it without some kind of external aid.

      This helps explain why our media is so reluctant to explain the nature of the Ukrainian fascists: they're getting an earful from the Ukrainian nationalist lobby at home. Just like Bush the Elder.

      The US never sought to de-Nazify public (and private) life the way they hunted communists. I don't support witch hunts, but it was a mistake not to shine light on those institutions in American life that supported the Nazis.

      For many in the US, Hitler was a bulwark against communism and served as a model for how to solve the labor problem--and this remained the attitude until he declared war on the US, following Pearl Harbor.

      Now we may be seeing those fascist elements seeing their opportunity and making their presence felt. And if they still have an influence on American foreign policy, then we may be in much great danger than we thought.

      "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

      by limpidglass on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 03:13:43 PM PDT

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