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  •  I agree (1+ / 0-)
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    reasonshouldrule

    The idea you can hurt the Koch Bros by not buying or boycotting products that are this basic and ubiquitous is a little juvenile. The place to beat the Koch Bros is at the polls by voting and by turning the media memes around. Oh and getting the conservatives off the Supreme Court.

    •  Hurting the Kochs (0+ / 0-)

      Very well-said.  Although I'm boycotting those Koch products, the only real answer is to vote and get others to vote as well. The quality of all our lives depends on voting in people committed to serving ALL Americans.

    •  If anyone, you hurt their employees the most. (0+ / 0-)
      The idea you can hurt the Koch Bros by not buying or boycotting products that are this basic and ubiquitous is a little juvenile.
      And I seriously doubt you hurt them. Our considerable talent and energy should be going into GOTV.

      New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

      by AlexDrew on Sat Apr 05, 2014 at 01:38:24 PM PDT

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    •  That's not the lesson of history. (2+ / 0-)
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      historys mysteries, happyshadow

      Boycotts can WORK, from Cesar Chavez and grapes to the Sullivan Principles and South Africa.

    •  There is no harm in boycotting products (4+ / 0-)

      As a general rule, people should put their money into what they believe in and avoid what they don't.

      Groups boycotting Arizona - and threats of boycotts - have impacted policy in that state. Liberals should consider no only what to buy but where they spend money/vacation.

    •  (juvenile) (0+ / 0-)

      I can see why someone might think it would be only a drop in the bucket, but don't see how it could be "juvenile" or immature.

      Many drops in a bucket lead to a full bucket. Boycotts have worked.

      THe other things as well. Needn't be either/or. I suspect you have some things on the list that you don't want to stop buying? Myself, not buying Lycra when most women's jeans and other pants and some tops have a bit of it woven in. would be pretty hard.

      I can, however, switch brands of toilet paper.
      Simply put anyway, why'd I want to give a cent of mine to the Koch brothers? I vote with my feet and wallet, Won't shop at Walmart either, or buy a handmade wool rug from India where there is rampant child labor. I assume those actions would be a little juvenile to you also.

      •  I don't want to hurt anyones feelings (0+ / 0-)

        But how many users are on Kos?  300K?  If all of them stopped buying Koch Bros products, the Koch Bros 1) would not even know 2) it wouldn't even show in their sales figures and 3) even if they knew, they wouldn't care or change their politics.
        Personally I enjoy wiping my ass with their products.  
        The only way to beat the Kochs is to have candidates more afraid of pissing us off than they are of them.

    •  Juvenile. Really. (1+ / 0-)
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      dconrad
      The idea you can hurt the Koch Bros by not buying or boycotting products that are this basic and ubiquitous is a little juvenile.
      That's rather rude.

      In point of fact, all of the things on the list have competitors. If you are willing to do your research, and share it with other people, it is quite possible to do some damage here. However, it would take some effort.

      I guess it's easier to just call the people who are asking you to do so names, instead? I'm not sure that approach qualifies as 'grown-up', though.

    •  I don't think the point is to run them out of (0+ / 0-)

      business.  Thank probably won't happen.  But a 3-5% drop in profits will get their attention.  If they are truly free market libertarians they will notice.  A boycott is just one of the many tools at our disposal not the only way to go.  I think the commenters here have come up with plenty of strategies to stop the Kochs from trying to buy the next president.  

    •  Koch Bros (1+ / 0-)
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      smileycreek

      Agree.  Their tentacles are all over consumer products.

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