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  •  Well your question is a trap, (3+ / 0-)
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    at least as you've framed it, isn't it?  There are countless people who could be cited for 'one particular decision' that they have made about wages; but no, not that meet your criteria of being 'a household name' or a meme.

    What is a household name?  Someone that the corporate media has chosen to represent, to make into a meme.  Who does the corporate media  hold up as models, memes, in this regard?  Generally, 1%ers.

    So your question uses national household familiarity, 'meme' status as the measure for being worthy of mention in this context.  And that's a status that only the corporate media can create. It excludes anyone who can't enter that pantheon.

     

    "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

    by Calvino Partigiani on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 05:59:58 PM PDT

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    •  No attempt to set a trap (10+ / 0-)

      But in speeches of this nature the references have to be those that the average listener can grasp and understand. Like "Henry Ford knew it was good business sense to pay his employees enough so they could buy his product".  We lament endlessly that the Democrats can't seem to craft such messages. If you've got a better name and message sentence to highlight the concept, and argument for higher wages, I'd be happy to see it and use it.  

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 06:11:29 PM PDT

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      •  I certainly didn't mean to question your (3+ / 0-)
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        motives, Catte Nappe, particularly since you are, to be honest, one of the posters here on DKos that I really respect and whose insights and comments I always enjoy.

        I only meant to say that there was an assumption in your comment that I don't necessarily agree with, having such a prerequisite for what kind of people should be held up as models in political speeches.  That is to say, the people who could be mentioned as good models are not, in my view, people that are household names.

        The comment just below by Navy Vet Terp about Owen Young would, I think, show a better reference than Ford.

        In peace and solidarity,

        CP

        "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

        by Calvino Partigiani on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 08:14:51 PM PDT

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        •  He might well be a better model, and better person (2+ / 0-)
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          But if the audience is thinking "who's he and what's he got to do with anything" (which most would be), then the reference is wasted. Or the speaker has to do some wonky professor educating on the background.  Foundational rule of public speaking - know the audience and use references and examples they can relate to.

          “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

          by Catte Nappe on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 08:46:18 AM PDT

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