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  •  rats -i can see eating. (2+ / 0-)
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    •  I've been ovo-lacto vegetarian (1+ / 0-)
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      for more than 40 years. But I have a choice, access to stocked-full megagroceries here in the lap of Amerikan Middle (almost) class abundance. And I grow a lot of my own. Might nibble some turkey on Thanksgiving, grilled trout whenever I can get it, but generally I go many months without eating any once-living critters.

      But I live in your basic backwoods wilderness. I've thought about it, and yeah. I could eat snakes, lizards, groundhogs, rabbits, wild turkeys, even deer if I had to in order to stay alive. But even that's just through the winter. In the rest of the year there's plenty of veggie stuff to eat out there. Including kudzu, which most people don't know is one of the higher protein, vitamin-packed legumous leafy-stuff that's much more palatable (and less apt to cause diarrhea) than poke. Jerusalem artichokes, ground nuts, bamboo shoots, cattails, acorns, wild amaranth, more fruits than you can shake a stick at...

      But I could eat a fat timber rattler, no problem.

      There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. - Will Rogers

      by Joieau on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 03:51:40 PM PDT

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    •  And compared to rats, bats (2+ / 0-)
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      seem mighty bony and meat-skimpy. Probably tough too, takes a lot of muscles to fly if you're a mammal. Even squirrels would offer more for the discriminating diner!

      There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. - Will Rogers

      by Joieau on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 03:54:30 PM PDT

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      •  Bats look like rats with wings to me. I'm not fond (2+ / 0-)
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        of them.

        "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

        by HoundDog on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 05:16:02 PM PDT

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        •  Maybe they should try to eradicate (2+ / 0-)
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          bats

          •  But, then some unexpected thing would happen (0+ / 0-)

            they eat a lot of insects. Someone just told me hey are great pollinators.

            "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

            by HoundDog on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 10:55:39 PM PDT

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          •  I've got nothing big against bats. (0+ / 0-)

            They eat their weight in flying insects nightly, don't make a nuisance of themselves during the day, etc., etc. I've even thought about building bat boxes on poles out and about, hoping they'd stop nesting in my inaccessible attic. So far haven't, though.

            We got some kind of unusual migrating bat flock last spring, and I see that they may be back. Much bigger than our normal bats, absolutely intent on nesting under the siding to the point that I've had to spray expando-foam and even board up access. They carried Valley Fever, which one of the dogs managed to get. Thought for sure we'd lose him, he was very close to death by late fall. Vet finally figured out what it was - had to send a test off, as it's a desert virus spread by bats, not at all normal here in the southern Appalachians - and got the right medicine. Poor dog had lost so much weight we thought we might lose him anyway, vet told me to try chicken soup. Your basic cheap chicken cuts boiled down, remove the bones, add rice, some chopped potatoes, skip the salt and herbs. Now the dog is a Big Believer in chicken rice soup, always asks for it!

            There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. - Will Rogers

            by Joieau on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:12:06 AM PDT

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