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  •  Our domestic politics (12+ / 0-)

    has not caught up with the new global political reality.

     I've said it all along: Dubya was the worst president in America's history.

    "The oppressors most powerful weapon is the mind of the oppressed." - Stephen Biko

    by gjohnsit on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 01:43:44 PM PDT

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    •  Well Cheney, Neocons and AEI Were nt (3+ / 0-)
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      gjohnsit, Louisiana 1976, maryabein

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 01:52:35 PM PDT

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    •  Oh, I agreed with you all along: (4+ / 0-)

      Dubya was the worst president in the history of this country. And that's saying something: previously, James Buchanan held that title.

      English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

      by Youffraita on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 02:01:59 PM PDT

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    •  Indeed. (7+ / 0-)

      Of course it has much to do with the way G.W.B. squandered our country's moral authority by launching war on Iraq on a trumped-up pretext & then the brutal occupation that followed. And it has much to do with the exhaustion of the U.S. war machine after 11 years of continuous war. But it's also a different world we're living in now: in 1945 the U.S. accounted for slightly more than 50% of all the economic output in the world, whereas today it accounts for 19%. The new reality is that American sanctions by themselves wouldn't have as much bite as in the past, at least not with the EU on board.

    •  Not just Dubya (4+ / 0-)

      The American love of smashing smaller, weaker societies was greeted with noble enthusiasm, 70% of the country, all its patriots and politicians and media pounded their chests bellowing for WAR!  The current Pres has been big on having those same Republicans as SecDefs.  You've got the current US most senior diplomat ponderously lecturing Russia that in the 21st century, nations don't invade other nations, after having himself voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq.  Please spare me the AUMF eyewash, his colleague Ted Kennedy was capable of understanding what the vote was, and appropriately voted "No."  Hell, I knew it was a war vote, and so did everyone else here, though partisanship will have 3/4 here playing stupid, "No we didn't know that vote meant war!"  Yeah, sure.  Everybody, including politicians and the media, called it the Iraq War Resolution at the time, the whole AUMF euphemism didn't come into general circulation until the cakewalk started falling and there was a sudden political need for ass-covering among "pragmatists" who thought invading Iraq was the most pragmatic thing EVER (only naive, ignorant, blame America first, fringe purists disagreed).  Long after the ultimate triumph of pragmatism:  "Mission Accomplished!"  

      It's really tempting to do commentary on this whole thing entirely in Cold War hysteria-propaganda.  But the total inability of Americans to laugh at themselves when it comes to our Imperial war and hate machinery suggests that would be a fruitless undertaking, people might even take it seriously.  

      Pay no attention to the upward redistribution of wealth!

      by ActivistGuy on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 03:06:57 PM PDT

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