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  •  I find that interesting too (2+ / 0-)
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    Justanothernyer, Penny GC

    except I can't figure out how he got that number.

    Is it based on a family of 3 or 4?  I can't find the right number from the 2013 guidelines that appear to match $10.10.

    Oh well, the hazards of being a data geek.

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    by Satya1 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 08:06:34 AM PDT

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    •  I really can't see basing the minimum (3+ / 0-)
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      wage on having a family. Raise it enough to bring a single person out of poverty. Not trying to sound Republican here, but if you want to raise a family, you need to find a job that pays more than a minimum wage, or get your wife to work, too. Having kids is a decision that should be made once you are financially able to do so. (in a perfect world)

      •  Sure, it "should" be a decision made once you're (1+ / 0-)
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        financially able to do so, but can ANYONE ever be certain they'll be financially able for the next 18+ years of raising the kid? Shouldn't a woman who is suddenly a single parent for any number of reasons be able to make enough money to raise her kids? Sometimes when you have kids to take care of and in school, the only job you can get is one that pays minimum wage, either because your husband used to support the family and you've suddenly had to get a job, or because of schedule constraints.

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        by FloridaSNMOM on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 09:34:51 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah but the problem (1+ / 0-)
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        is that the term "poverty" and it's definition is so skewed in D.C. that what they consider "poverty" for a family of four is actually what we SHOULD consider to be poverty for a single person.

         Imagine trying to raise a family of three or four on $10.10 per hour. It's shameful that we allow the bar to be set so low.

      •  I'm just looking for the numbers from which (0+ / 0-)

        Reid gets his remark,

        $10.10, gets you out of poverty — $10 doesn’t. $10.05 doesn’t.
        However on the point you bring up see FloridaSNMOM's good points about single parent families and life's uncertainties...

        I think "in a perfect world" kind of sums up the operative phrase.  For the working poor, the "perfect world" is more elusive than for most DK readers.  There's a lot stacked against them.

        Also at minimum wage a full-time job brings in a net of about $52 per 8 hour day maybe.  (Gross at min wage in IL is $66/day)  The cost of daycare would be $35-40 (IL), depending on a number of factors.  When it comes to a calculation of either working min. wage and trusting your children to others for maybe $10-15 per day ($200-300/month) there isn't a clear advantage.

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        by Satya1 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 10:52:37 AM PDT

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