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  •  Hmm, I like your theory. (1+ / 0-)
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    This country is so big, it's only recently we've seriously crowded into wild animals' territory in a lot of places, whereas on that island, everyone's been living together for quite a while. That might be why their children's lit has so very many anthropomorphized-animal stories to begin with.

    A lot of non-western-European cultures have stories like that too; they probably live/d closely with feral animals as well. It's just we, who think every creature we don't directly control is to be shot or driven away, who are alienated from our neighbors. Sad. Thanks, CW.


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    by belinda ridgewood on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 11:17:41 AM PDT

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    •  I agree, and oddly enough, even Poirot (1+ / 0-)
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      (first show of 3rd season, iirc -- I'm watching the entire series) grumpily commented to Hasting how in NYC, with it's straight streets at tidy right angles man controlled nature while here (the English countryside they were walking through) all is chaos.  Having the different relations to Nature in US vs England in mind, this startled me.  (This 2-hour episode contains many lush shots of 'domesticate' Nature at its glorious best in June-July, coming right up to the roadways instead of cut back as we do, so the English Countryside is shown as a constant, wonderful presence in English Life.)

      And yes, I also considered who the Euro settlement of this country -- still very recent, in the sweep of time -- came with the attitude that 'civilized' people (from countries which had domesticated Nature around settlements) entering into a 'hostile wilderness', where 'wild nature' was an enemy to be conquered and 'put to use', with any area not 'put to use' considered 'wasted' or 'wasteland'.

      That pic of 'Fox in Garden with Pigeon', even though the caption tells us 'Perching Pigeon safe from Predator', tells quite a different story.  The lush, but relaxed foreground garden, leading to the lawn which melts into the trees, has the badminton-net as a boundary  -- but not a wall -- between human space and Nature.  And the fox is not showing typical canine predatory behavior, with his upright stance and relaxed, tongue-lolling grin.

      I can well imagine the Peter Rabbit writer/artist (so sorry; can't recall her name right now!)  glancing out her window to see this scene, and stopping, with a smile, to watch this interaction.  And, if she had written about this scene, she would not have written about a fox on the hunt -- because the fox is quite plainly not 'on the hunt'.  She might well have written --

      'On a bright clear day in June, Mr Fox awoke in a very good mood.  "I think', he said to himself, 'that I'll take a quick trot 'round the neighborhood to see if anyone's left messages for me.'  And off he trotted,his mouth open to taste the wind.

      'Before long, his trotting brought him to Mrs. Edmond's garden, where he was pleased to see his old acquaintance Miss Pigeon sunning herself on a high perch.  'Why, good day to you, Miss Pigeon!' he said.  'I hope you and your offspring are doing well on this fine day.  What's in the wind?'

      'Too you, too, halooo,' replied Miss Pigeon, in her usual quite way.' . . ..

      Well, enough.  Thanks for listening.

      •  Ha! Beatrix Potter. (1+ / 0-)
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        If I am not mistaken, that was just the sort of thing she did. She was a girl from a moneyed family who was educated at home by a governess and spent the summers in the country, where she rambled about and sketched animals. I think you have completely got her number.

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        by belinda ridgewood on Thu Apr 17, 2014 at 10:52:13 AM PDT

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        •  Gosh, thanks, belinda! (1+ / 0-)
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          That's very kind!  Thank you!

          I saw, some years back, probably on PBS, a wonderful biography of Beatrix Potter, so I remember about her background, and how she worked in a quietly determined way against family/society rules of the time to choose her preferred future, and did so quite successfully.  I remember her lovely, cluttered workshop in her home, where she kept some small animals so she could use them as models, and all the sketches she made of (for example) her rabbits and ducks, so her depictions of their movement and gestures and expressions would accurately express their natures and personalities.  I was also impressed at how she married an 'inappropriate' man -- genuine love between them -- who actively supported her career.  And how, in later life, she used her earnings and her fame to protect the land she loved from destruction by development, so that those areas remain protected to this day.

          Quite a woman, and a very moving, encouraging story.

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