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  •  How Did Marx Miss Something So Fundamental? (5+ / 0-)
    As Karl Marx wrote, nature requires long cycles of birth, development and regeneration, but capitalism requires short-term returns.
    Agriculture requires the shortest term returns known to nature, with the sole exception of capitalism.

    Agriculture is the capitalism of hominid ecology, and it has been depleting and destroying environments around the world via its ultra short-term-return imperatives since people began breaking ground with sticks.

    "We've already established what you are, human economic, we're now merely haggling over pace."

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Apr 27, 2014 at 05:36:05 AM PDT

    •  True, however there is a difference in how (3+ / 0-)
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      the soil itself is used. Farming which destroys the fertility and health of the soil will become unproductive fairly quickly. Rotation of crops and application of manure are time honored ways to preserve productivity.

      Our current system of short term profit monoculture using tons of chemicals actually destroy the soil and will collapse in the future. Desertification is a state which is costly and time consuming to reverse.

      We have it within our power to make the world over again ~ Thomas Paine

      by occupystephanie on Sun Apr 27, 2014 at 06:39:47 AM PDT

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    •  Think of the fact that you can turn-over (2+ / 0-)
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      capital and make a profit (or a transfer of revenue) in the space of less than one day (think of stock markets) or dependent upon the length of the production process; agricultural production takes longer than that.

      I do agree completely that agriculture has been the bane of hominid ecology; this leads to the question of what right do humans have to ensure their collective survival when it clashes with the planet upon which they are dependent. That is an excellent point and the centre of an ecosocialist argument.

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Sun Apr 27, 2014 at 03:55:29 PM PDT

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