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  •  Who's seriously stumping for geocentrism? (1+ / 0-)
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    These people will use it over and over again, especially in the war on science.
    Even the generally anti-science people think geocentrism is ridiculous. Ken Ham's crew of six-day creationists, for example, rejects geocentrism as a scientific principle and acknowledges that the earth revolves around the sun. When Ken Ham thinks something is too nutso to be supported by science, it's clearly on the fringe of the fringe.

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 10:53:54 AM PDT

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    •  when did that ever matter ?? . . . serious or not (0+ / 0-)

      they want to discredit all they don't like or that challenges them . . . and this will be used to that end.  How many stupid school boards do we need to fight?

      Plus duping stars without recourse is not okay and can be dangerous

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      by Clytemnestra on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 11:00:07 AM PDT

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      •  Who are "they" here? (0+ / 0-)

        I agree that duping stars—or anyone—without recourse isn't acceptable, and I'm certainly not defending the filmmaker's actions here.

        But I've seen no indication that this is anything more than one crank with a whole lot more money than common sense or scientific education, and I've certainly seen no indication that the major players behind the school board battles of which you write are in any way interested in hitching their wagon to geocentrism.

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 11:08:59 AM PDT

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        •  "they" - the science deniers, those that want (0+ / 0-)

          creation taught in high schools, who think climate change is a hoax and want to repeal the enlightenment .

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          by Clytemnestra on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:32:35 PM PDT

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          •  But "they" aren't taking up this cause. (0+ / 0-)

            As I wrote above, I'm seeing no indication that any of the major players in the textbook or school board battles—the Gablers, the Discovery Institute, any of the various right-wing advocacy organizations, etc.—are interested in hitching their wagon to geocentrism.

            When even the six-day creationists are calling the geocentrists nuts, it's hard to see how the more "moderate" Intelligent Design advocates (who agree with science on the age of the universe and the existence of evolution, but call on religion instead of natural selection) would end up going to bat for it.

            "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

            by JamesGG on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 02:00:24 PM PDT

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