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  •  So awful, but I'll tell you I know first hand (31+ / 0-)

    that public school these days, particularly high school, is a professional grade incubator for stress and low self-esteem.

    It is not the same as when I went was in high school 25 years ago.  It just isn't.

    The level of pressure I see on these kids is unreal.  

    I don't know what made this kid snap like this, I'm not saying anything really, except that we have royally screwed up what used to be childhood.

    I blog about my daughter with autism at her website

    by coquiero on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 10:51:58 AM PDT

    •  Hmm...you didn't go to my high school (8+ / 0-)

      which was an all-girls school and there were at least 10 girls in full stage anorexia.  A few tried suicide.  Lots were on drugs.

      All it takes is one screwed up kid and one screwed up kid is very easy to find in any school.

    •  It can be both pressured and isolating for some (1+ / 0-)
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      I know this to be true- there is a stigma about getting mental health treatment as well as a long waiting list for GOOD mental health care.  And by "good" I mean counseling combined with access to a child/adolescent psychiatrist who takes the time to sort out what can be handled by therapy and what can be treated with medication or both.

      I think some of the blame placed unfairly on medications might be due to the fact that there are providers who are not psychiatrists prescribing drugs without understanding the full range of side effects or careful followup simply because a family cannot make an appointment soon enough.

      It's a complicated issue- sometimes it is impossible to predict who will act upon terrible impulses vs someone who seems "off" but is harmless.

      Could we provide another option for high school- smaller groups of students, with more support? And the lack of mental health providers and inpatient beds for kids...even parents who know their kids need help often can't get it in a timely manner.

      Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science. Robert Green Ingersoll

      by offred on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:12:58 PM PDT

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    •  I appreciate your perspective (5+ / 0-)

      but also please remember it is anecdotal.

      My anecdotal experience:  When I was in (a middle to upper middle class, mostly white, well-resourced) high school 12 years ago, a 4.0 gpa, athlethic and musically talented boy a couple grades older than me committed suicide.

      A large group of girls had a suicide pact that didn't end up happening only because a mom discovered a note written by her daughter about it (you know, those things kids used to write to each other on scratch paper before anyone had texting) and alerted the parents of the other girls.

      Bullying was rampant, even without social media to help it along. Gay-bashing was huge, as was hatred toward the Latino community.

      Kids did drugs behind the dumpsters outside the cafeteria. Lots of drugs. Not just weed.

      A girl was raped in the dugout of the boy's baseball field during school hours.

      My freshman year, a senior who was a national merit scholar had a nervous breakdown and ended up in the psychiatric unit of the hospital for a long while due to the pressures her family placed on her to achieve to an insanely high level.

      More kids than I can count were in treatment for (or desperately needed treatment for) eating disorders.

      I think the entire concept of "back in the golden days" tends to be folly.

      We are all students and teachers. I often ask myself: "What did I come here to learn, and what did I come to teach?"

      by nerafinator on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:23:30 PM PDT

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