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  •  I never claimed it was "fact". (0+ / 0-)

    How many times do I have to say that before you're satisfied?  

    I do not need your permission to post here. I would appreciate it--and I'm sure many others would as well, at this late stage of the discussion--if you would simply let this go.  

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:14:26 PM PDT

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    •  You have had the power (3+ / 0-)
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      to end this at any time -- just stop posting about it.

      As long as you continue to post about it and hedge, I'm happy to pound your continued disingenuous arguments.

      Such as trying to call your assertions "opinions" when they are about matters of fact, not opinion. I don't care whether you say "I'm not calling it fact" -- that's just a dodge.

      Such as your "suspicion" -- which you can't even admit is completely unfounded -- that drugs are responsible for school violence.

      And such as your complete denial that making such claims, even in the form of groundless "suspicions", do harm in the form of spreading FUD and creating stigma.

      So you want me to let it go? Stop giving me the same disingenuous fodder to keep holding onto. Or better yet, retract your claims or admit they're completely groundless.

      "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

      by raptavio on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:20:55 PM PDT

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    •  I am soooo tired of this shit . . . . (8+ / 0-)

      Why in hell should anyone CARE about your uninformed opinion? Especially if you have zero evidence or data of any sort whatever to back it up?

      We on the left take justifiable pride in our tolerance. We openly advocate that EVERYONE should be treated equally, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or anything else.

      BUT . . .

      When we attempt to apply that same "tolerance" to matters of SCIENCE (and "do medical drugs cause violence in kids?" is a matter of SCIENCE, not of opinion), we are utterly absolutely inexcusably wrong. Science is not a democracy. Science cares about facts and evidence, not about opinions. In science, all opinions are NOT equally valid or equally worthy of consideration, and no one can demand that they have a "right" to have their opinions given equal consideration. In science, there are only two kinds of opinions---those which conform to demonstrable facts and data, and those which DON'T. And we refer to the ones which don't as  . . . WRONG. Period. End of debate.

      And if you post your silly evidence-free CTs here, you should not act all crybaby whining when someone else points out that it's silly evidence-free CT.

      Sorry if that hurts your fee-fee's. (shrug)

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:58:00 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry you feel that way n/t (0+ / 0-)

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 02:54:06 PM PDT

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        •  No, there's evidence to back up the (1+ / 0-)
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          assertion that the stigmatization of the mentally interferes with the successful treatment of mental illness. Don't accuse other folks of basing conclusions on feelings because you are. I hope you have no idea of the evil you're supporting.

          •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

            A comment that says, simply, "I'm sorry you feel that way" does not even remotely accuse anyone of anything.

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 04:53:22 PM PDT

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