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  •  the doctor may not be loving and (1+ / 0-)
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    including them-however loving and inclusive the parents' intentions may be.  There is angst as part of growing up.  Doctors don't do angst, they do medicating.

    •  You lost me. (0+ / 0-)

      How does the kid end up in the doctor's office in your story?

      "You don't have to be smart to laugh at fart jokes, but you have to be stupid not to." - Louis CK

      by New Jersey Boy on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 02:53:51 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe a teacher suggested it? (2+ / 0-)
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        "Junior's having a little trouble in school, Mom. Perhaps you should have him see a doctor?"
        I've heard that one more than once.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 03:14:20 PM PDT

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      •  let me tell you a little story about my own (1+ / 0-)
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        angst in high school.  I went to a teacher I mistakenly trusted and told him I was worried about what I would do after high school, actually seeking some guidance about college.  This was in the 60's.  I was depressed because I thought I would not be able to go to college to continue studying music.  This paragon sent me to the school psychologist.  The psychologist told me I needed an older man who would put up with me, (looking at my legs).  Now that's considered harassment, so they hand out drugs.  Never mind, little lady.  Run along and get married and have kids or be a receptionist.  Many variations on this theme.  We need to listen and support.  The vast majority of children are not dangerous, they just want to do something with their lives.

        •  I'm not sure which one of us needs ADD meds ; ) (1+ / 0-)
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          But I'm having trouble understanding this :

          We need to love them and include them, not drug the minds out of them.
          I took that "We" who need to love and include children to be society: parents, teachers, therapists and, yes, I guess doctors.

          I would think we both agree that the doctor's office is the last stop for parents, teachers, and therapists who, we both agree should be the ones who have tried to love and include the child they are caring for as you suggest.

          If/when the love and inclusion isn't working, a doctor is consulted, but, but,

          Doctors don't do angst, they do medicating.
          I'll put aside this blanket statement about a vast and diverse group of individuals, to ask, "How can the last solution that is attempted be the original cause of the problem?"

          Doctor's medicating kids may not be the best solution, but it is hard to twist it around to be the cause of the child's problem.

          "You don't have to be smart to laugh at fart jokes, but you have to be stupid not to." - Louis CK

          by New Jersey Boy on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 04:52:24 PM PDT

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          •  wow, it's amazing to me (0+ / 0-)

            that you assume that medication is what is being resorted to after all other avenues are exhausted.  And you put down our diverse perspectives to ADD--I have nothing more to say to you.

            •  Even with this ; ) on the ADD line? It's humor! (0+ / 0-)

              We're talking ABOUT meds fer cryin' out loud.

              It's probably a good idea to just drop it though. We tried.

              "You don't have to be smart to laugh at fart jokes, but you have to be stupid not to." - Louis CK

              by New Jersey Boy on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 05:55:10 PM PDT

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