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  •  You didn't get the joke. (0+ / 0-)

    In the video, at the beginning, Snowden is basically "Taking the Fifth" and, as the moderator notes, may not answer some questions on the advice of counsel, who was apparently present with Snowden. So, I noted that he knew the Fifth Amendment, but maybe the Fourth not so much.

    Then, after a paragraph break, I delved into an entirely separate subject. That subject had to do with logic. Since Snowden provides absolutely no details about any of the surveillance he described on the tape, we are left to conjecture about it.  

    C'mon, Dumbo!  

    My dog likes me because I'm salty. Not salty like a pirate. Salty like a pretzel.

    by Tortmaster on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 10:25:50 PM PDT

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    •  From the department of You-Must-Be-F*cking- (3+ / 0-)
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      -Kidding-Me...

      ...That subject had to do with logic. Since Snowden provides absolutely no details about any of the surveillance he described on the tape, we are left to conjecture about it...
      What planet are you on, Tortmaster?

      Snowden was making a statement to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe.

      His "proof", which supports everything that's been stated in reports on the information he provided to the media has been delivered up for the better of the past year, where it has dominated our news and is in the process of winning every major journalistic award on the planet.

      Or, did you expect Snowden to spend 500 hours in front of PACE taking about each document that's already been reported upon in, literally millions of words via the press? (And, this is all information that the folks in the large room had already reviewed.)

      HERE'S THE LINK TO YOUR PROOF, from the American Civil Liberties Union.

      Contrary to your methodologies, oh tortious one, this is NOT a courtroom in a litigation case where one throws as much sh*t up against a wall and hopes that some of it will stick.

      A news story and a blog post, which includes publicly-available information from THOUSANDS of previous news stories and blog posts, is NOT A COURT CASE.

      Who in the hell do you think you're kidding when you make the vacuous statements you're making in the comments in these posts?

      Thankfully, the audience is aware of your m.o. And, aside from the fact that it's glaringly bogus, it's now to the point where it's light years beyond TIRESOME.

      That's the problem with people that throw sh*t upon the wall all the time in their efforts to baffle their audience with bullsh*t. Eventually, the place begins to reek...

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 11:05:30 PM PDT

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      •  I just responded to "the joke." n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

        by bobswern on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 11:06:24 PM PDT

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      •  I watched the video, and I ... (0+ / 0-)

        ... read through the news reports that were contemporaneous when the allegations first surfaced a couple months ago. There was no detail about surveillance of UNICEF then or now. There was no detail about surveillance of the World Health Organization. There was no detail about any of the organizations. The very fact that Snowden lists UNICEF as an entity under surveillance, or Doctors Without Borders for that matter, begs the questions I tried to raise above: Who, exactly, was surveilled? I hardly think that the NSA went after UNICEF as a terrorist organization, spying on all of their employees nimbly-pimbly, one after the other, looking for the amount of Trick or Treat money kids raised for UNICEF last year. It doesn't make sense. (That's why I say it begs the question.)

        On the other hand, there are UNICEF employees in about 190 different countries and territories. That's a lot of people. Perhaps one of them caught the attention of the NSA or GCHQ, and it was remarked in a follow-up report somewhere that the person worked for UNICEF. That's why I asked the question above: Is Snowden vouching for the character of millions of unknown individuals? He doesn't have to name names. He could say how many. For how long. Where they were located. A reason for the surveillance. Using what procedures. What became of the person or persons surveilled. The basis for surveillance and whether it was reasonable or not. But he does none of that.  

        See, I've seen the same kind of scare headline before in this matter followed by no detail.

        My dog likes me because I'm salty. Not salty like a pirate. Salty like a pretzel.

        by Tortmaster on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 12:47:03 AM PDT

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