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  •  Religious text of any kind (9+ / 0-)

    are much more accurately regarded as fictional myth making than the accurate recording of historical fact.

    •  You only have to convince millions (8+ / 0-)

      of believers in that fact.

    •  I don't think that is absolutely true (4+ / 0-)

      But I will say that it is important to try and understand the cultural context as much as possible when reading such material.

      Ancient people were not stupid. They were credible reporters, however they didn't always have our understanding of the natural world (scientifically speaking) so that their descriptions could be acceptable to anyone but anthropologists, historians and clerics.

      Journals, stories, diaries, letters, stele, cylinder seals, bass reliefs, cave paintings are important. They might not be literal, or they might be--but in a specific cultural context, but no less enlightening.

      "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

      by GreenMother on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 03:37:59 PM PDT

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    •  Historical facts (1+ / 0-)
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      Religious text of any kind are much more accurately regarded as fictional myth making than the accurate recording of historical fact.
      The only problem with that is that it leaves us damn near helpless prior to the invention of scientific history as part of the Late Renaissance Enlightenment. Even the Greco-Roman writers who were deliberately trying to write semi-objective histories were only so good at that whole "fair and balanced" thing, which is why they occasionally contradict each other. (Among other things.)

      So if you're looking much earlier than about 1300 CE, you're stuck sorting the available actual historical data from cultural and mythic biases in any source, no matter which ones. Accurate recording of historical fact is a fairly recent invention.


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      by thanatokephaloides on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 09:42:26 PM PDT

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