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  •  Sometimes in Florida (12+ / 0-)

    Absentee ballots are not always counted unless an election is close.  Yes, this is absolutely not legal but it's not entirely unheard of.  

    Also in Florida there have been cases of shenanigans played out with absentee ballots in the past.  Many Florida voters do not trust Tallahassee with an absentee ballot.  They feel as if the only way to truly make sure their vote is counted and processed is to do it in person.

    •  Thank you for your response (7+ / 0-)

      I can see your point regarding one's choice to vote in person in Florida. I guess the level of political corruption can't be denied.

      'A civilization flourishes when people plant trees under whose shade they will never sit' Greek Proverb

      by janis b on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 02:19:17 PM PDT

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      •  I understand the point, but (2+ / 0-)
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        an absentee vote is just as valid, no matter whether or not it is counted.  If one wins by so much of a margin that it could not change the outcome, it really does not matter.  If it could make a difference, they will be counted.  (Well, that's assuming the system is actually working properly, of course.  If it is not, this issue is the least of the problems.)

        I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

        by beemerr90s on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 08:16:33 PM PDT

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        •  Assuming the system is actually working properly? (1+ / 0-)
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          Please consider this pertinent article from the New York Times:

          Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises

          By ADAM LIPTAK
          Published: October 6, 2012

          (snip)

          Yet votes cast by mail are less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised and more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth, statistics show. Election officials reject almost 2 percent of ballots cast by mail, double the rate for in-person voting...

          ...In the last presidential election, 35.5 million voters requested absentee ballots, but only 27.9 million absentee votes were counted, according to a study by Charles Stewart III, a political scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He calculated that 3.9 million ballots requested by voters never reached them; that another 2.9 million ballots received by voters did not make it back to election officials; and that election officials rejected 800,000 ballots. That suggests an overall failure rate of as much as 21 percent.

          Some voters presumably decided not to vote after receiving ballots, but Mr. Stewart said many others most likely tried to vote and were thwarted. “If 20 percent, or even 10 percent, of voters who stood in line on Election Day were turned away,” he wrote in the study, published in The Journal of Legislation and Public Policy, “there would be national outrage.”

          (Emphasis added.)

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          •  I vote in person (3+ / 0-)
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            If the elections are going to be fixed, I'd sooner see the fixers scrambling to get it done at the last minute.  Voting ahead of the election gives them more time to plan.  They'll fix the results, but I'm sure as Hell not going to make it easy for them!

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