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  •  Right. And if you don't have the "user fees" you (0+ / 0-)

    have no access. Libertarians apparently can't think past their illusions. Libertarians apparently don't want to be part of any community of people who are not doing well financially, emotionally, physically. Libertarians apparently do not believe in the idea of "the commons," thus, no support for national parks, national forests, public beaches, public schools, etc. Libertarian ideas will get us an Ayn Randian, Koch-brothers horrifying world that the corporatists are also moving us toward. As for public safety, safety would only be for those who have property and cash to hire others to protect it. Public safety would not have do with vaccinations, health care, food support, good roads, well-maintained public utilities, etc. Whose going to figure out how to make money from people who have none because they have no property? Who is gong to establsih a business to provide these things to people who cannot pay? People are less valuable than property in a libertarian philosophy.  In a libertarian world, how long till most people BECOME property, or, first stage, serfs?

    •  shelia - my only point was that there is nothing (0+ / 0-)

      in Somalia that represents libertarian principles, yet people here keep writing that Somalia is a libertarian paradise, and that libertarians should move there. I am not here to defend libertarians, I just can't let blatant stupidity go unchallenged.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 02:38:23 PM PDT

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