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  •  This Is No Time for Activism. (5+ / 0-)

    Major change far more modest than climate change requires has never come to the US except by mass impoliteness over generations. The only rapid change I'm aware of, on the scale of a decade or two, was lowering the voting age to the age of the draft pool in the early 70's.

    Dropping the draft age for one gender for a few score million men in one country compared to rendering quadrillions of dollars of fossil fuel worthless and effectively ending one of our most powerful economic sectors against the will of finance, our most powerful economic sector, also in about 10 years which is what the science is calling for --

    We left unicorns and pipe dreams back in the dust somewhere around the word "rendering."

    Nobody knows how this can be accomplished. Nobody knows even how to set up a democracy in the US.

    Unless something major and very out of the box comes along very soon --perhaps a greater-than-1929 crash, or a dozen or so billionaires committing to all out economic war on big dirty energy-- we're going to be limited to adapting to oligarchy, deprivation and bad climate.

    The only other wild card would be for scientists to step up to the plate, as people in every other sector have in their time, and strike and deny service. Society doesn't need any other group of contributors, not like scientists.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 07:04:06 PM PDT

    •  I think you are overly pessimistic and... (2+ / 0-)
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      underestimate how troubling times and moments of opportunity will often distill talent to the top. To say no one knows how to make a democracy seems like a useless comment since there are many people who know how, but our core system is less the issue and its more we have allowed malign forces to get way too entrenched.

      The core system is workable but safe guards must be reestablished. Like Jefferson said Liberty must be refreshed ever so often, though I prefer to make them shed tear more than the blood he suggests. I have watched this happen since the 80s and had discussions on this topic in foresight, so the fact this is where we were headed wasnt that hard to see, but the generation or two before us failed their due diligence. This has been done one piece at a time a regulation here, a legal clause there, chipping away year after year.

      Believe it or not I think once the populace regains control the other stuff will come easier. By far the hardest part will be actually mobilizing people. We live in a Brave New World where walls are not needed when all the barriers are in the brain. Breaking that to create the initial movement will be by far the most difficult and possibly dangerous.

      Don't take my word for it per se, but understand there is a 100 reason why we shouldn't and those are the barriers that will prevent us. Worrying to much but all the  details in foresight will leave us in comity for eternity and reality is something this big is almost impossible to fully pre plan with enough accuracy to bother trying.

      You have been one of the few voices with mine and a few other willing clearly state how deep our doo doo really is.

      Now that there is momentum don't reverse your role.

      Never in the past has technology created so much a divide between the people and the state, we are on a timer before it becomes possible to completely defuse and uprising through technology, we are borderline there.

      I don't think we have decades so any plan on such a time scale is bound to fail before it even starts.This isn't a revolution and no one is trying to overthrow the government. Its a repairing of damage done of time by interest only looking out for themselves.

      When the Republicans are in power they get what they want and when the Democrats are in power they still get what they want. At what point do people finally see it is just theater? ~ Me

      by fToRrEeEsSt on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 07:38:00 PM PDT

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    •  "No time for activism?" (4+ / 0-)

      It was activism that brought about the Civil Rights Act, the end to the slaughter in Vietnam, and some change in the US culture about the possibilities for women. Many fields of science have improved our lives dramatically.

      Now, wicked people are trying to turn this back, to divide us and thus enrich themselves.

      If there were ever a time for activism, it is now.

      "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

      by cotterperson on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 07:43:22 PM PDT

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