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  •  Evening. "It wants control." Sounds like (10+ / 0-)

    some kind of alien monster or something.  
    Hmm.  There's a though.  
    I didn't listen to the Hedges vid yet, I will, but that's exactly what's going on.  Although it's more than the U.S., it's the western oligarchs, central banks and corporations, i.e., the plutocracy or whatever you want to call them.  It's really the same thing for the neolibs and neocons, the same world agenda.  It's set as we know in the thinktanks, the "groups" like the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger Grouip, etc.  
    We've said this over and over.  
    I guess some people still don't know.

    "Fragmented and confused, we have no plan to combat any of this, but are looking to be saved by the very architects of our ruination."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 05:45:10 PM PDT

    •  "There's a thought". My computer is infected (6+ / 0-)

      with that new bad spelling virus.
      It ain't me, it ain't me.  I ain't no frigging senator's son man.

      "Fragmented and confused, we have no plan to combat any of this, but are looking to be saved by the very architects of our ruination."

      by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 05:47:57 PM PDT

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    •  I found this today... (8+ / 0-)

      I stashed it away in a folder and forgot about it. It's a comment from commondreams by usernsme: WrenchMonkey Veteran:

      You're half right. The Neolithic Revolution was a colossal, anti-evolutionary blunder.

      However, I would disagree that "basic human nature" is the problem. The problem is industrial civilisation, which is ruled and perpetuated by essential psychopaths.

      The island of Mannahatta or island of many hills, which is now called Manhattan, was occupied sustainably for more than 5000 years, a good example of "basic human nature", by people called the Lenape. Then it was "discovered" by "civilised" europeans.

      In less than one tenth the time those indigenous people lived peacefully and sustainably there, civilisation has obliterated the rightful occupants and turned that island into an utterly sterile and lifeless pile of concrete, glass and steel and called it "progress".

      At this point I must conclude that no civilisation much beyond the stone age level of technology is sustainable on a finite landbase, like Earth for instance.

      Any culture that relies upon the ongoing destruction of non-renewable resources cannot endure.

      Once a society becomes large enough to trigger the formation of a hierarchy for control or "governance", social power is greatly diminished and becomes the domain of those whose individual power enables them to rise to the top of the hierarchy.

      Such hierarchic social structures enable a process called ponerogenesis that leads to pathocracy, which is a form of government or rule by psychopaths.

      That is what happened during the Neolithic Revolution.

      Somewhere around 10,000 to as long as 13,000 years ago our ancestors started behaving oddly. They abandoned the way of Life that had allowed the primate family Hominidae, the hominids, which includes H. sapiens, to survive for some five million years.

      Archaeological evidence from locations such as Gobekli Tepe, in southeastern Turkey, indicates that, around eleven thousand years ago, Neolithic humans started building large structures, temples, places for ritualistic gatherings. At the same time, most significantly and most damning, we began to think of ourselves as separate from and superior to all other Life of Earth.

      "Anthropologists have assumed that organized religion began as a way of salving the tensions that inevitably arose when hunter-gatherers settled down, became farmers, and developed large societies. Göbekli Tepe, to Schmidt's way of thinking, suggests a reversal of that scenario: The construction of a massive temple by a group of foragers is evidence that organized religion could have come before the rise of agriculture and other aspects of civilization. It suggests that the human impulse to gather for sacred rituals arose as humans shifted from seeing themselves as part of the natural world to seeking mastery over it” (emphasis added). (source)

      I've devoted a great deal of time over the last several years researching Ponerology and the history of psychopathology as it relates to the development of "civilisation".

      As a result, one very simple thing has become quite clear to me. In small communities, small enough for everyone to be very familiar with each other, it is impossible for the psychopath to hide. He/she will always stand out like the proverbial sore thumb.

      From recorded observations, we do know that sociopaths, by various names, have existed in all kinds of societies, worldwide and throughout history. As an illustration, psychiatric anthropologist Jane M. Murphy describes the Inuit concept of kunlangeta, which refers to a person whose "mind knows what to do but does not do it." Murphy writes that in northwest Alaska, kunlangeta "might be applied to a man who, for example, repeatedly lies and cheats and steals things and does not go hunting, and, when the other men are out of the village, takes sexual advantage of many women." The Inuits tacitly assume that kunlangeta is irremediable. And so, according to Murphy, the traditional Inuit approach to such a man was to insist that he go hunting, and then, in the absence of witnesses, push him off the edge of the ice.

      Therefore, in such communities, the source of evil - and evil is not some amorphous concept, a mystical, religious or imaginary thing - can be easily spotted and eliminated.

      Once communities begin to develop into societies, villages, towns, cities, nations and empires, the large populations and complexities of maintaining them unavoidably produce conditions that allow psychopaths to remain hidden in the crowd and form networks, which lead to paternal hierarchies of power and control that are the ideal place for the pathological to flourish and rise to power.

      This process and pattern has developed steadily since the Neolithic revolution. Because they demand growth, the resultant societies always surpass the carrying capacity of their landbases and must satisfy the ever growing demand for resources by taking them from somewhere and someone else.

      This is civilisation. It is a culture of violence, abuse and rapacious extraction. It cannot exist without the importation of resources. In a closed system, like a planetary ecosystem, it is unsustainable.

      This is where we are today with what we call "civilisation".

      Just my opinion

    •  evening al... (5+ / 0-)

      that hedges interview is actually quite good, as is the cohen/mearsheimer interview.  better and more honest than any analysis you're likely to find in american media.

      i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

      by joe shikspack on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 06:11:04 PM PDT

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