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  •  I do, but Thorium is the way to go. (2+ / 0-)
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    China and India agree. They are really cranking up their R&D on this.

    Voting is the means by which the public is distracted from the realities of power and its exercise.

    by Anne Elk on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 03:37:38 PM PDT

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    •  But there isn't time for R&D (3+ / 0-)
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      By the accounts I have read, a prototype thorium reactor will be up and running in China in about 10 years and even that is considered a ‘moon shot’ scale effort. Thorium reactors won’t develop into a widespread technology for another 20 or 40 years after that.

      If you take the urgency in the IPCC report to heart then with regards to nuclear the logical conclusion is to start building new third generation reactors now.

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      by Joe Bob on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 04:04:42 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe, but doesn't it take 10 years for that too? (0+ / 0-)

        Voting is the means by which the public is distracted from the realities of power and its exercise.

        by Anne Elk on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 04:10:15 PM PDT

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      •  The R&D is done (0+ / 0-)

        I mentioned dauvergne.com below. My understanding is that their design phase has been completed and they are seeking funding to build.

        And because the plant design uses components already approved by the NRC, there shouldn't have to be a huge regulatory delay in approval for construction or operation.

        There are several other teams in the US with thorium reactor designs; the LFTR design being a well-known one. I don't know their current state of progress.

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        by jubal8 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 04:15:15 PM PDT

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        •  The R&D is so very done that China, going (2+ / 0-)
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          all out, doesn't think they can get a single commercial reactor on-line for 10 years.

          Knowing how nuclear projects tend to miss deadlines, fifteen would be the smart bet.

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          by JesseCW on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 04:57:24 PM PDT

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          •  So because China can't get it done sooner, (0+ / 0-)

            having announced their intention 3 years ago, then nobody else can do it? Is there only one possible design? What if some other team had started, say 30 years ago, working on a design?

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            by jubal8 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 05:34:36 PM PDT

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            •  If we're playing "what if", we can ask (1+ / 0-)
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              the question "What if this wasn't the first time people seeking venture capital set up a website massively overselling the current state of their resources and design progress?"

              "High deductibles kill low income patients." FishOutOfWater

              by JesseCW on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 05:58:25 PM PDT

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              •  Clearly this isn't the venue, (0+ / 0-)

                at least according to one person, to find support for what many people believe is a promising avenue for zero-carbon-emission energy production.

                And, at least in this article's comments, according to the fact that nobody has recced any of my posts here. That says something.

                Nuclear power from thorium. Not a popularly held view at DailyKos.

                Got it.

                My δόγμα ate my Σ

                by jubal8 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 06:14:11 PM PDT

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