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  •  I am not in charge (5+ / 0-)

    of training or war games for the US military, but I truly doubt they are that unprepared for provocative acts.  We've been in ground wars for the last 12 years plus, we've provided combat air support, etc., the Navy is routinely moved to areas with potential for shooting.  I truly do not believe they can't handle a plane buzzing a ship, or a submarine showing up, etc.

    •  It's about what you practice for (2+ / 0-)
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      Nebraska68847Dem, Penny GC

      War games and exercises are generally staged around what real world threats exist, with the goal of acclimating soldiers and sailors so that there is little novelty if and when the real threat materializes. I don't think that our military does a lot of exercises around "Russian attack jet buzzes the carrier" anymore, unless I am mistaken, because I don't think that has been anywhere near the top of the threat list for many years.

      The purpose of these games when they were common was to define the "line" by walking up to it and waving at the other side. It was a dance with two equal adversaries on either side. The message that is being sent now appears crafted to remind the United States that the Russian arsenal remains an existential threat. So this is new. It isn't routine.

      •  On the other hand, (1+ / 0-)
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        Involuntary Exile

        I'm sure "blah blah jet and other small aircraft" unintentionally buzz the fleet.

        The "traffic" just wanders along, sometimes above low clouds, and to radar operators and weapons officers, they view it as a real threat with hostile intent, always.

        It's not like our military assets publish "here's where we'll be today".

        Suddenly, it dawns on me, Earnest T. Bass is the intellectual and philosophical inspiration of the TeaParty.

        by Nebraska68847Dem on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 11:32:43 AM PDT

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      •  And I find it hard to believe (3+ / 0-)
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        JesseCW, Lepanto, dougymi

        that they don't practice 'hostile' jet buzzes ship routinely.  We have run ins with the Chinese, their jets are very similar and the threat of escalation if either side over reacts is similar.    And the Cold War may be officially over, but I would also think that both sides like to practice on each other from time to time.

        •  But it's IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CRISIS IN (0+ / 0-)

          CRIMEA!  It drives me nuts that all of you Putin apologists don't understand the difference.

          •  I meant to say, the crisis in Ukraine, and (0+ / 0-)

            throughout eastern Europe.

            It's really driving me crazy how many people here are taking the pro-Putin position.

          •  OMG OMG OMG (0+ / 0-)

            CRISIS, BE AFRAID.

            Get a grip, it is and always has been a dangerous world, and the crisis in the Crimea is not a reason we should be getting trigger happy or over-emotional in our reactions.

            If some other power hungry Russian would be emperor caused the downfall of Putin today and threw him in a gulag, I would never miss him.  You clearly aren't capable of dealing with this on a factual basis.  I am not apologizing for Putin.  I am saying our military is better prepared and better trained than to be stampeded into stupidity over one lousy jet buzzing a ship.

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