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  •  I agree - (12+ / 0-)

    just because someone has been discriminated against, that does not justify their own discrimination. Two wrongs making a right, and all that.

    The proper response is to eat somewhere else, and try to get others to do the same.

    •  Thank you, ypochris. (2+ / 0-)
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      You're right.

    •  Rejecting a corporation is not (1+ / 0-)
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      "discrimination" in the sense we use that word while talking about wrongs done to real, rather than fictitious, persons.

      "High deductibles kill low income patients." FishOutOfWater

      by JesseCW on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 06:24:49 PM PDT

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      •  What if a Fundie Governor said that... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...companies owned (or corporations closely-held) by atheists and/or those that donated to Freethinker causes were not welcome in a city or state? Is that not discriminatory (by a public official in this case) relating to a person's ability to earn based on their beliefs?

        Are you able to turn it around and see how discrimination from either side is just as wrong?

        Boycott Chick-fil-a, picket the restaurant, mock Dan Cathy, expose his statements... But it's troubling when we limit expression just because we find it backwards and/or revolting.

        No, you can't fix stupid. You OUTNUMBER stupid. -Wildthumb, 1/10/2013

        by newinfluence on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 08:38:21 PM PDT

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        •  In the first place, equating a fight for justice (1+ / 0-)
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          with efforts to get LGBT people attacked violently in the street (and that's what those who funded the pro-Prop 8 Ads did) is flatly ridiculous.

          We don't have to respect those who seek to incite hate crimes.  We're not obliged to shrug and smirk and say 'Oh, well, just another POV".

          Telling Dan Cathy that his corporation isn't welcome isn't the same thing as denying him building permits.  

          It's telling him the truth. Overall, his company isn't fucking welcome anywhere people who don't support gay bashing are the majority.

          "High deductibles kill low income patients." FishOutOfWater

          by JesseCW on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 06:45:09 AM PDT

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          •  Thank you for your effort. (0+ / 0-)

            I'm mystified about the confusion on this issue. Is Equal Rights For All hard to understand?

            Particularly on a site like this one, when people are unsure if everyone should be treated equally under the law because it's unfair to bigots, what do you make of it?

            •  Everyone SHOULD be treated equally (0+ / 0-)

              But that includes bigots.

              Like I wrote above, there are many good ways to fight for equality and justice, but those don't include turning around and eliminating messages -- even despicable messages -- by use of governmental force.

              No, you can't fix stupid. You OUTNUMBER stupid. -Wildthumb, 1/10/2013

              by newinfluence on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 09:57:44 PM PDT

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    •  I agree too (5+ / 0-)
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      We win political fights by convincing people that our side is the correct one---not by simply running our opponents out of town. That makes us just as undemocratic as they are when they do it to us.

      Let them open anywhere they want--and then make them defend their position everywhere they are.

      That's how we win.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 06:26:23 PM PDT

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