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  •  And I didn't see his name mentioned. (1+ / 0-)
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    But if you mentioned the Cubs instead of "a number of teams"--for really that's who he pitched for, then I would have known. don't count that last year or so. It was the first six with the Cubs where he got his first Cy Young, then the glory years with the Braves, then the Elder Statesman years with the Cubs when he got number 300, and then those last two with the Dodgers and Padres.

    And if you look at the numbers, Glavine was the best pitcher on the Braves during those years. He won more games.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 07:21:48 AM PDT

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    •  I definitely had his name included, and not in a (0+ / 0-)

      late diary 'edit,' either.

      For the record, Maddux pitched in 363 games for the Braves, a total of 2526.2 innings, in 11 years, 302 games for the Cubs, 2016 innings, in 10 years. Those stats are from baseball-reference.com. I say that not because I wish to engage in any kind of pissing contest about who has the greatest 'claim' to Maddux, or which team's uniform he should wear in the Hall. That is just what the facts are. If post-season innings and games were included, the stats would be more lopsided, still.

      During the time they were both with Atlanta, Maddux won 178 games, Glavine won 169. But I never heard Glavine - or anyone else - suggest that anyone other than Maddux was the ace of that staff. (Glavine's numbers also from baseball reference.) If you have information that shows otherwise, I will be happy to consider it. Though it still wouldn't change his nature as a competitor, which is my real interest. Glavine was good, but at least in my opinion, he wasn't Maddux.

      You know, the diary I have in mind focuses on Maddux the competitor, his way of competing, his manner, his focus, his intensity. I knew him primarily when he was ... closer to me geographically. I cannot imagine that he competed substantially differently in Chicago compared to when he was in Atlanta. I do not live in Atlanta, so I am not invested in who has a greater claim to him, Chicago or Atlanta. If I did live in one of those places, I would proudly claim him! And I don't blame anyone who wishes to, no matter where they live.

      "The opposite of war isn't peace, it's CREATION." _ Jonathan Larson, RENT -9.62, -9.13

      by BeninSC on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:47:19 PM PDT

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      •  As far as the Hall goes, Maddux chose no logo: (0+ / 0-)
        My wife Kathy and I grew up in baseball in Chicago, and then we had just an amazing experience in Atlanta with the Braves. It’s impossible for me to choose one of those teams for my Hall of Fame plaque, as the fans of both clubs in each of those cities were so wonderful. I can’t think of having my Hall of Fame induction without support of both of those fan bases, so, for that reason, the cap on my Hall of Fame plaque will not feature a logo.
        Same as LaRussa--winning with the White Sox, As, and Cardinals. He chose no logo as well.

        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 02:55:30 PM PDT

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