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  •  The F-35 is a huuuge cash travesty... (4+ / 0-)
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    ...A total of ONE TRILLION bucks has been committed by our government to Lockheed Martin for it. $400 billion has been spent so far. Production started on it 13+ years ago. 100 have been produced. And, for all intents and purposes, IT STILL ISN'T EVEN CLOSE AIRWORTHY! (It cannot fly in bad weather. It's got a gazillion other problems associated with it, above and beyond that.)

    Read about it for yourself; a true American clusterf*ck!

    Fail! The $400 Billion Military Jet That Can't Fly in Cloudy Weather

    "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

    by bobswern on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 02:35:32 PM PDT

    •  Nah, the F-35's OK (1+ / 0-)
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      I personally heard one of the test pilots say he loves flying it.  It will be built and flown for decades.

      •  Heard that about the B-1, its still a flying brick (2+ / 0-)
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        lift surface to weight ration is borderline, particularly during landing approach and right after  take off, micro bursts scare the shit out of its pilots.

        .................expect us......................... FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 03:44:22 PM PDT

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        •  I've known a few B-1 pilots (5+ / 0-)
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          They liked the airplane for the most part.

          It's faster on the deck than most fighters and it has enough gas to go fast for a long time.

          They said it would kill you in a heartbeat if you let it. Too much angle-of-attack and the fuselage turns into a lifting-body, causing a severe pitch up.

          If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

          by Major Kong on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 04:25:27 PM PDT

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          •  Fully loaded on the deck is an issue (1+ / 0-)
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            The original B-1, mach 3, much lighter. The same plane without afterburners, the same square foot of lift and control surfaces, much heavier, start with those fuel tanks that had to be bigger, and the rest of the production line knew nothing about the extra weight of those gas tanks. Around plane 9 or 10 the compartmentalization broke down, the structural people found out the gas tanks weighed more, so they had to rebuild/refigure. the result was a much heavier airplane.

            I used to manage a hobby shop, a B-1 pilot came in, in describing the landing, he took his wallet out and tossed it at an angle to the floor.... LOL.

            Oh yeah he liked it too, just not fully loaded at low altitude.

            .................expect us......................... FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

            by Roger Fox on Wed Apr 16, 2014 at 04:14:03 PM PDT

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