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  •  Not at all - LLC is factoring in the externalities (3+ / 0-)

    which you would prefer to neglect, as your thin pretense of an 'apples to oranges' comparison shows very clearly.

    Imperialism as not accidental to modern capitalism; it is and has been essential to it.  You don't have to read Lenin to know that (or even Hobson, who was no marxist) - just go and read Shoup and Minter's Imperial Brain Trust

    The system is only 'efficient' when you arbitrarily ignore the aspects that are inefficient.

    •  Bingo. (0+ / 0-)

      Been thinking a lot lately about the concept of subsidies, and applying it to cultural ideas, ideologies, etc; if an idea needs massive help, in the form of propaganda, the control of politicians via bribery and blackmail, etc., from a culture to stay in place, doesn't that perhaps say something about the internal value of the idea?

      Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 06:07:19 AM PDT

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    •  It is all just "Godfather" Unrefusable offers... (0+ / 0-)

      stripping away any bargaining power by others in an economic agreement/social contract in whatever form it takes.

      Gaming leverage to one party only in the exchange or deal.

      Mafias are very efficient means to the desired ends....

      Robber Barons, Barbarian raiders, slavers, locusts corporate raiders... all cut out indirect means... eliminate sharing with other parties to a deal providing goods, services, labor, creativity, innovation...

      Stealing via means and methods defined or codified as legal... and made admirable and exalted as good for all... is a lot less troublesome than using weapons and killing lots of people directly to "extract value"... wealth transfer in genteel and creative ways is admired for its finesse and for its much greater efficiency as much as for the magnitude of the plunder.

      Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

      by IreGyre on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 07:08:14 AM PDT

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