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  •  Read a book about Poland (3+ / 0-)
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    Lawrence, ER Doc, native

    Poor mofos got attacked by east and west continuously. They used to wedge ax heads in tree limbs and let them grow around them, ready made weapons.

    Tatars, Mongols, Germans, you name 'em they all wanted a piece of Poland.

    Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

    by high uintas on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 11:39:47 AM PDT

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    •  And the same thing happened to Ukraine before, (3+ / 0-)
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      during, and after WW2.

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 11:45:29 AM PDT

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    •  Poland's just one big plain (2+ / 0-)
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      Easy to march and ride across.

      The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is all but forgotten today, but for centuries Poland was the center of what by the 17th Century had become a large, wealthy, and remarkably progressive country.  But the development of an oligarchical quasi-democracy where every aristocrat held a veto over collective policy meant the Commonwealth was hopelessly divided internally, and slowly and steadily lost ground until it was finally partitioned outright by Prussia, Austria, and Russia in the late 1700s, ceasing to exist as an independent country until 1918.

      Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

      by Visceral on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 03:38:35 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe Putin should welcome NATO... (0+ / 0-)

        The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, aided by thousands of Kossacks from modern Ukraine and points east, actually invaded and held Moscow for two years.  Had the Poles decided that Moscow was worth a Divine Liturgy (i.e. had the invading king converted to Orthodoxy as King Louis the Good decided that "Paris was worth a Mass" outside the walls of Paris) Muscovy would be in the Commonwealth.  

        In 1618 they besieged Moscow again, but a peace was declared that left Smolensk, Russia in the Commonwealth.  

        "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

        by Yamaneko2 on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 08:31:53 PM PDT

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